Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/07/16

This entry is part 12 of 14 in the series Spoilers 2016: Part 2

This week, we have more news and spoilers about sci-fi series and Supernatural. You can access previous spoilers columns here.


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Sci-fi Spoilerpalooza
By Heather S. Vina

EW has up some video from their EW Popfest with actors Grant Gustin, Stephen Amell, Melissa Benoist, Caity Lotz, and executive producer Greg Berlanti on the Arrow, Supergirl, The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow crossover.

Good news for fans of NBC’s Timeless: NBC has extended the show’s episode order to 16 episodes.

12 Monkeys: Terry Matalas released on her Twitter a photo of Jennifer in the new season.

Arrow: The show has done some amazing casting with actress Lexa Doig (Continuum, Andromeda) being cast as Talia, another daughter of Ra’s al Ghul and half-sister of Nyssa. Stephen Amell spoke to TV Line about a new romance for Oliver. TV Line also has up the first look of Dolph Lundgren playing Konstantin Kovar. The show has also cast actress Juliana Harkavy (Constantine) in a recurring role as Tina Boland.

The Defenders: Coming Soon has up a set photo of Jessica Jones and Misty Knight meeting.

The Flash: EW has up an interview with Danielle Panabaker about Caitlin’s powers.

Game of Thrones: i09 came up with a comprehensive listing (or their best version of it) of all the spoilers out there for the new season.

Gotham: Spoiler TV has up the official synopsis for episode ten. They also have up the promotional photos for episode eight. The show has cast actor Ivana Milicevic (Banshee) as Selina’s mother, Maria Kyle.

iZombie: The show has cast actor Andrew Caldwell (Transformers) in a recurring role.

Killjoys: The Mary Sue has up an interview with Tamsen McDonough (the voice of Lucy).

Legends of Tomorrow: TV Line has up the promotional photos for episode five.

The Librarians: There’s a new trailer out for the season.

Lucifer: TV Line has up a sneak preview of episode seven, with Lucifer and Dan “bonding.” Spoiler TV has up the official synopsis for episode nine.

Once Upon A Time: Spoiler TV has up links to some set photos of the actors. EW is reporting that Alan Dale is returning to the show as King George.

Sleepy Hollow: Fox announced the show is set to return on January 6, 2017. The show has cast actor Kamar De Los Reyes (Salt) in a recurring role.

Stranger Things: The show’s official Twitter account released a photo of a cast reading for season two with all the child actors, including Eleven.

Supergirl: TV Line has up the promotional photos for Mon El’s secret identity in episode five.

Teen Wolf: Spoiler TV has up the latest promotional photos for the new season. EW has up some spoiler tidbits from the actors at the EW Popfest.

The Vampire Diaries: Spoiler TV has up the promotional photos for episode five.

The Walking Dead: EW has up an interview with Norman Reedus on the state of Daryl. EW has up an interview with Lauren Cohan on Maggie’s state of mind. The Hollywood Reporter debunks a theory on Ezekiel’s tiger. E!Online has up an interview with Melissa McBride on Carol’s meeting with Ezekiel and the Kingdom. The Hollywood Reporter has up an interview with Khary Payton on Ezekiel and Carol’s chemistry. EW has up an interview with Greg Nicotero on last week’s Kingdom episode.

Over at E!Online, the latest Spoiler Room has spoilers on shows Arrow/The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Westworld, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and The Walking Dead.

At TV Line, Ask Ausiello was finally back with spoilers on shows Once Upon a Time, Teen Wolf, Legends of Tomorrow, Frequency, The Flash, Arrow, and The Walking Dead.


Supernatural (Wednesday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

The Season 12 line-up (23 episodes) so far: “Keep Calm and Carry On” (12.01) official photos and press release; “Mamma Mia” (12.02) synopsis and photos; “The Foundry” (12.03) synopsis, official photos, sneak peek, and promo; “American Nightmare” (12.04) synopsis, official photos and promo; “The One You’ve Been Waiting For” (12.05) synopsis, promo and set photos; and “Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox” (12.06) synopsis.

The promo for “The One You’ve Been Waiting For” (12.05) is out.

A last-minute sneak peek for “American Nightmare” (12.04) is out.

The season 12 official cast and crew photo is out.

Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki discussed filming episode #250.

Davy Perez, who wrote last week’s episode, is also writing 12.12. Oh. Yay.

Kings of Con, season one will be out on November 15 on Comic-Con HQ.

There was a con this past weekend in New Jersey.

Ratings for “American Nightmare” (12.04) rose a bit in demo to 0.7/2 and 1.81 million. This put it in second place for the week on the network.

In the Live+7 ratings, the second episode of the season, “Mamma Mia,” rose from 0.6 to 1.2 in demo and from 1.619 million to 2.712 million in audience (it was not listed in either the Live+3 or Live+7 ratings for the week of 12.03).


We’ll be back next week with more news, spoilers and blatantly unabashed self-promotion. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, Grimm and Supernatural.


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10 Comments on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/07/16”

  1. evave2

    Really depressed today.

    Watching The Mentalists and I just wondered was that the same cemetery where Sam and Dean dug up the Fox sisters the same cemetery where they went after the zombie/resurrected dead person in Children Should Not Play with Dead Things?

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      It could have been. I haven’t watched The Mentalists in a while.

      Yeah, I can’t say I’m impressed with the election results, either. I anticipate there will be considerable buyer’s remorse over that, and soon.

  2. evave2

    OK Supernatural went up to #2 on the CW playlist in Episode 4; where can I find the what is going on with the rest of the CW shows (just for comparative reasons, I also want to see if no Arthur Darville has hit Legends of Tomorrow’s ratings, AND if now being stripped on TNT is helping Arrow’s ratings. Golly, I don’t like Arrow. I can’t get around the idea that Starling City is the most important city-state in North America; I could ‘get’ Gotham or Metropolis as being that important and a stand-in for New York but Starling City? Nope.) because I want to be ‘sure’ of Supernatural being renewed?

    I go to io9.gizmodo.com every morning for Morning Spoilers and they keep writing reviews/discussions of Supergirl and other CW super-hero shows but there is never anything about Supernatural so I know there is no ‘genre’ buzz about Supernatural there, but there is all the other stuff about the show (like the EW cover).

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      io9 tends to ignore Supernatural. Always has. There’s this thing among some online fanboys that Supernatural is full of girl cooties, even though the show’s gender split has always been about 50/50.

      Laurel becoming Black Canary put me off Arrow completely and I can’t seem to get back into it. I like Supergirl, but my freakin’ DVR keeps bumping it for other shows due to Monday being so stuffed. Quite frustrating.

      SPN came in second last week on the network. Right now, it is as safe as houses.

  3. evave2

    Two thoughts about the episode: Time after Time after Time was on TNT today and Dean was lamenting ‘freain’ time travel, man’ and said that if he stayed stuck in 1944 he might have to go to Europe and punch Hitler in the neck. And he did, he knocked him down and kind sorta hit him in the lower jaw/neck area. I thought that was damn fine continuity from season 7 to season 12.

    Second everybody noted that Hitler was kind of a wacky dude: I have read in numerous books/seen numerous shows which assert that Hitler was flying on uppers prescribed by his doctors. Now he got out of the watch and was HIGH as a kite. “I like dogs” indeed.

    The show’s portrayal actually fit with what I have previously known about Hitler. Thought that was strange.

    1. Marisol

      I hadn’t noticed the continuity with Hitler thing, that’s pretty neat. On the other hand, it means the writer did research earlier episodes and still wrote a bad one. Cool, good times to look forward to. So far though, not a bad season but not sure I could really describe any single episode since the premiere except that Mary came back and then left. Poor Dean.

    2. Paula R. Stiles

      Yeah, a lot of people are having issues with the way Hitler came across in the episode without realizing that how they perceived Hitler has a lot to do with how Nazi propaganda pumped him up. The real Hitler was…really odd.

  4. evave2

    I liked the episode a lot better on rewatch. This was a ‘lot’ more equal. I also noted that they are letting Sam make contact with the guests (both boy and girl) because in this case he had a lot more in common with them both. By the end of the episode the girl had no problem believing Sam was Lucifer’s Vessel.

    And once somebody mentioned that Keenan Tracey was Ian Tracey’s son (he did a decent job I thought) I could ‘really’ see Ian Tracey in him.

    I liked in this episode that people noted Hitler was looney tunes; it seems his staff while totally loyal and had just forgotten that the dude was the kind of guy who would blow birthday whistles for kicks.

    I just hope that when the BMOL show up again that Dean discusses the Thule (which ‘their’ ally Aaron and his golem are wiping out) and why the BMOL were not up to date on ‘their’ European problem. It has ‘read’ to me this season that the BMOL are particular to England so are there ‘other’ chapter houses do you think or is Britain the only one (I mean Eileen mentioned the MOL but said they were defunct, right?) otherwise in the whole wide world?

    Anyway, lastly, I loved the ‘pie continuity.’

  5. evave2

    By equal I meant equal between Sam and Dean; usually Dean ‘bonds’ with the guest(s) but here it was Sam.

    I did not hate the son; but I wonder if Mr Ketch will be chasing him down. The Thule aren’t witches, right? I don’t know what the difference is between Necromancers and witches. It seemed to me the Thule use spells to stay young but I did not see them being much different from the BMOL who also use spells So none of these people are witches, which is something else.

    Hey, how would the BMOL stop demon deals in the UK proper?

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