Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 07/31/13


This week, we have more news and spoilers about upcoming books, Once Upon a Time, Doctor Who, sci-fi series, and Supernatural. We started a brand new spoilers column series a few weeks ago. You can access previous spoilers columns here.

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Horrific Reads, Bloody Off the Press
By Nathaniel Katz

Horror comes intertwined with history this week, starting with Yangsze Choo’s The Ghost Bride. In the era of the British occupation of Malaya, Li Lan is given the chance to become a ghost bride, the spouse of the recently deceased heir to the Lim family. The offer carries with it a lifetime of security – and the deathly threat of being trapped in the world of ghosts beyond her own.

Though its setting is modern, Sam Cabot’s Blood of the Lamb turns its eye back farther still. After hearing about an old secret powerful enough to destroy the Catholic Church, Thomas Kelly knows he has no choice but to dig deeper. He is not, however, the only one looking – just the only human doing so.

All of that’s not to say that the week is lacking in more-contemporary reads. Oak Hollow by Kristopher Rufty sees an expectant mother take up residence with her grandmother in the sleepy town of Oak Hollow. It’s only as the birth of her child nears that the town grows ominous, that she starts to wonder if maybe its denizens have not been waiting for her and her baby all along.

The threat in Jeff Jacobson’s Sleep Tight, though unpleasant, initially seems no more sinister than an old fashioned town like Oak Hollow. But the bed bug infestation that fills this novel is carrying a plague, one that drives its victims mad and violent. A virus whose existence is a closely guarded secret.

Finally, Centipede Press has opened preorders for two reprint volumes of William Lindsay Gresham’s work, which rests on the darkest side of noir, where that genre shades in with horror. Nightmare Alley is the writer’s best-known novel, a tale of carnivals, spiritualism and pain. This edition comes with essays by the author, art by David Ho, and an introduction by Bret Wood. The collection, Grindshow, brings together 24 of Gresham’s best short stories, the majority of which have never been republished, and many of which explore magic and spiritualism alongside the dark corners of the human mind.

Once Upon a Time (Sunday nights, 8pm, ABC)
By Heather S. Vina

The show has found their Tinkerbell, and it’s actress Rose McIver. They have also recast Robin Hood.

And more in the way of casting news: SpoilerTV is saying that Robbie Kay – previously announced as a Lost Boy – has really been cast as Peter Pan himself. So, the Big Bad really is a young boy? I don’t know this young actor, but, hopefully, he has the gravitas to play a character that even someone like Rump is nervous of.

Vancity made another appearance at a Once location shoot. They took some pictures and got some info on the shoots.

E! Online has some Comic-Con interviews and scoop with the cast.

Mega Buzz at TV Guide has some scoop on the Home Office that Greg and Tamara worked for:

Question: Will we get a definitive explanation of the Home Office on Once Upon a Time? – Pedro
NATALIE: Yes, in the season premiere. “As we stated in the finale, Greg and Tamara don’t know that they’re working for Peter Pan,” executive producer Adam Horowitz says. “So the Home Office is related to Pan, but that’ll be cleared up pretty quickly.” Oh, and it may have appeared that Ariel was in Storybrooke in that Comic-Con teaser, but the producers say that she’ll actually be in Neverland.

The Once Twitter feed gave a script tease for the season premiere:

TAMARA: We made it. Mission accomplished.
HENRY: Sure about that? You know my mom’s coming to get me. Both of them.

Doctor Who (Saturday nights, 9pm, BBC America)
By Heather S. Vina

They have released information about the season seven DVD boxsets for the U.S. and the UK.

There’s been some upset in the UK over the Comic-Con 50th Anniversary trailer and the fact that only those who attended the convention were able to see it. Considering this is a UK show and not a U.S. show, the UK fans were (understandably to me) upset that the U.S. fans got to see it and they didn’t. The BBC issued a statement regarding the trailer:

This was an exclusive Comic-Con trailer made especially for the Doctor Who 50th panel, it has not been released in the U.S. This world famous international event is an established platform used by all of the major producers. UK fans can look forward to exclusive content over the next few months.

The Bleeding Cool site is reporting a rumor that Paul McGann (the Eighth Doctor) filmed something new for Doctor Who. But what that is is still unknown. Might it be something to bridge the gap between the Eighth and Ninth Doctors?

Steven Moffat is reporting that a lot of the stories he started with Eleven will come to a conclusion during Matt Smith’s run.

The BBC are reporting that they plan to globally air the 50th Anniversary special at the same time:

It’s always been our ambition to work with our broadcast partners so that international Doctor Who fans can enjoy the 50th-anniversary special at the same time as the UK. We’ll have more details soon about our very exciting global plans for November.

Matt Smith did several video interviews at Comic-Con, talking about leaving the show, what he’s planning on taking with him, and whether he regrets his decision. You can see/read them at TV Line, EW, and Vulture.

Sci-fi Spoilerpalooza
By Heather S. Vina

The cast and producers/writers of Once Upon A Time: Wonderland sat down for a video interview with TV Line at Comic-Con this year, to discuss their new show.

The cast and writers of Grimm had a similar sit-down with TV Line for their show.

For fans of Haven, the new season premieres on Syfy on September 13.

For Arrow fans, the TV Addict has some video interviews up with cast members from Comic-Con.

Spoiler TV has up the full Comic-Con Almost Human panel. Minus the episode, of course.

For Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D fans, there’s a new video featurette, for new character Agent Melinda May, up on Spoiler TV.

For Game of Thrones fans, George R.R. Martin has an interview up with E! Online.

E! also has up the new promo for new show Sleepy Hollow.

Supernatural (Wednesday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

The show is supposed to be preempted, starting this week, all August for a new summer reality show. We’ll see how long that lasts.

Some very cute brief Twitter videos (called “VINES”) are out for the show and several of its characters here, here, here, here, and here. You can also find some stills here.

The show’s premiere has been moved up a week to October 8 (It will start in Canada on October 15 in the same time slot). You can all officially celebrate. From the way the repeats of The Originals pilot are being scheduled, it looks as though the CW is anxious to bring over the fandom from The Vampire Diaries – and that Reign, the intended new leadout from The Vampire Diaries, is already dead in the water.

Supernatural, in case you were wondering, appears to be safe as houses for a while. CW head Mark Pedowitz is making his usual late-summer noises about loving it, while executive producer Robert Singer and Jared Padalecki are talking about taking it into the teens. Of course, Singer has announced that he’ll be leaving around episode 200, so who knows what that means? I do think a record-breaking 11th season is pretty likely at this point, though. Beyond? Well, we’ll have to wait and see.

Oh, and on the non-news front, Singer once again confirmed that John probably, maybe isn’t going to return in season nine. Again.

Another Comic-Con interview is out about Dean’s storyline from Jensen Ackles, where he talks about Dean’s guilt and hints that Dean is impatient to leave his passive role concerning the Trials far, far behind.

More news about the proposed spinoff is up:

The long-gestating spinoff from veteran CW drama Supernatural is moving forward as a backdoor pilot to air as an episode of Supernatural‘s upcoming ninth season. To be written by Supernatural supervising producer Andrew Dabb, the planted spinoff, in early stages of development, won’t be as nomadic as the mothership series, which takes place in a different town every week. It will explore the clashing hunter and monster cultures of Chicago.

And still more news here.

Now, first of all, would it kill Deadline Hollywood to employ a proofreader? “Planted”? Really? It’s a proposed show, not a Geranium.

Second, this “urban” setting sounds remarkably like the setting of “Man’s Best Friend with Benefits,” an episode that was generally quite disliked by the audience and offended a whole lot of people. Also, “urban” in CW terms usually means pretty boys and girls in pretty clothes with too much money having boring soap opera drama. This show is very, very likely to be a whole lot different from Supernatural – and not in a good way.

In addition, Andrew Dabb will be the showrunner. You will remember him as the writer who gave us such hot messes of story logic and worldbuilding as “Trial and Error” and “Hunteri Heroici.” Plus, he seems to be fond of fridging female characters. So, yeah, this one has “fail” written all over it. And that’s aside from the fact that most new shows fail, anyway. But maybe if he takes Ross-Leming and Buckner (and perhaps Klein) with him, we’ll end up with some win-win.

Let’s look at reality for spinoffs, O my droogs: 1. Most shows fail. 2. Most shows fail because they’re not very good. 3. Most spinoffs fail because they can’t recapture the magic of the original, because they can’t bring their own take to the new verse, and because they don’t stand on their own merits.

In addition, a major, major problem with this show as described so far is in the very vagueness of the premise. It has no currently recognizable characters, none that have been tested out with the audience (and since the Ghostfacers webisodes went nowhere, despite a lot of fans actually liking the Ghostfacers, how much more risky will it be with totally new characters?). And it has no recognizable storyline (which makes it an almost dead cert the show will be yet another procedural, probably a ripoff of Grimm). That actually raises the chances of the characters and storylines all being cliched failures, with no new Sam-or-Dean kind of character to raise things above the pack. There is no unique franchise here in what we’re hearing. And that’s not going to help it when the first season chopper comes to chop off new little shows’ heads.

There are things I’m liking about season nine (Yes, I do find the news about Dean’s big secret intriguing, actually), but this spinoff isn’t one of them. It sounds as though they’re taking the lowest common denominator approach all the way. Which doesn’t shock me, but it doesn’t usually result in a good show, let alone a good hit show, either. Keep in mind that this backdoor pilot episode isn’t even written, yet, let alone anywhere close to being picked up to series.

Jeremy Carver was talking recently about bringing Charlie back in 9.04, in which they riff The Wizard of Oz and do a comedic take on the origins of the bunker. Because that is precisely not what fans were begging for. That kind of tone-deafness needs to ease up or it’s going to sink the show – and the proposed spinoff.

Oh, well. At least the same interview confirms that Sheriff Mills will return in 9.08.

Misha Collins and Mark Sheppard continue to be joined at the hip in this TV Guide group show promo. It’s as if they’re turning into the Anti Sam and Dean. In addition, Collins gave another interview in which he talked about Castiel discovering human plumbing. Oh. Can’t wait.

Set pics and a brief report are up from YVR Shoots for 9.01. Speaking of 9.01 spoilers, Jim Beaver confirmed with a behind-the-scenes set pic that he will be in the season premiere. According to Jared Padalecki, Bobby’s return will be as something like a “memory.”

Robbie Thompson teased about the return of Dean’s amulet in a recent interview with Adam Glass.

Finally, the ratings for the repeat of “Clip Show” were 0.3/1 in demo and 990 thousand in audience.

We’ll be back next week with more news, spoilers and blatantly unabashed self-promotion. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, Grimm and Supernatural.

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