Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 05/18/16

This entry is part 18 of 22 in the series Spoilers 2016: Part 1

This week, we have more news and spoilers about sci-fi series and Supernatural. You can access previous spoilers columns here.

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Sci-fi Spoilerpalooza
By Heather S. Vina

As the television upfronts are on the horizon, the networks have started announcing their renewals and – cue funeral theme – their cancellations. For the renewals, Sleepy Hollow is making a surprise return, sans original actress Nicole Beharie whose character Abbie Mills was killed off in the finale. For the cancellations, Agent Carter was cancelled by ABC. The CW has cancelled Containment, which was always billed as a “limited series.” Fox cancelled its Frankenstein reimagined series Second Chance.

And in a “cancellation AND a renewal” twist, the rumors of Supergirl moving from CBS to the CW are true. The show will head to the partially-owned-by-CBS network in the fall.

Not many new genre shows seem to be getting picked up yet, but NBC has given a series order to Midnight, Texas, based on a book series from author Charlaine Harris (True Blood). It’s about a town that is “a mysterious safe haven for those who are different.”

NBC has also picked up show Timeless, about time travellers trying to stop a time travelling criminal. The show has a familiar face to Supernatural fans at the helm, Eric Kripke.

The CW has picked up the show Frequency, based on the 2000 movie of the same name.

ABC has picked up Time After Time, a series about H.G. Wells being transported to modern day times to track down Jack The Ripper, who has also been transported to modern day times. It sounds remarkably like a movie starring Malcolm McDowell I remember seeing as a child ….

NBC has picked up the DC comedy series Powerless, starring Vanessa Hudgens as an insurance adjuster “specializing in regular-people coverage against damage caused by the crime-fighting superheroes.”

Fox has picked up The Exorcist , a series based on the movie.

For fans of the Marvel shows, not only was Agent Carter cancelled, but ABC passed on picking up the other S.H.I.E.L.D. spinoff, Marvel’s Most Wanted.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Chloe Bennet has an interview up with EW about Daisy’s state of mind on her return to the team.

American Gods: The show has cast actor Pablo Schreiber as Mad Sweeney, replacing the exiting Sean Harris.

Arrow: According to an attendee at a recent convention, Colton Haynes reported that he would be returning for a few episodes.

Bates Motel: TV Line has up an article on last week’s surprising events.

Dark Matter: The show has a new promo out for season two.

Doctor Who: The BBC America site has an article about “The 10 Things You May Not Know About” the episode “School Reunion.” This is the episode in which Sarah Jane – my personal favorite Companion – made her return!

Emerald City: TV Line has up the promotional photos for the NBC drama set in the land of Oz.

Fear the Walking Dead: Showrunner Dave Erickson spoke with EW about the events in last week’s episode.

The Flash: Spoiler TV has up the promotional photos for episode 2.22.

Game of Thrones: TV Line has up the promotional photos for episode 6.04.

Grimm: TV Line has up an interview with Sasha Roiz.

Jessica Jones: The Hollywood Reporter has an interview up with showrunner Melissa Rosenberg, on which storyline generated the most hate.

Killjoys: The show has a new promo out for season two.

Legends of Tomorrow: In surprising news, actor Wentworth Miller will no longer be a series regular on the show, but will have a regular role in the Greg Berlanti DC series of shows.

Once Upon A Time: Spoiler TV has up the promotional photos for the final two episodes of the season. TV Line has up an interview with Lana Parrilla. Sean MacGuire has up an interview with TV Line after last week’s tragic episode. EW has up some season finale teasers from executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis.

The Originals: Joseph Morgan spoke with EW about the latest twist/”death” on the show. Claire Morgan AKA Rebekah is returning for the finale. Charles Michael Davis has an interview up with TV Line.

Orphan Black: EW has up an interview with creators John Fawcett and Graeme Manson.

Preacher: The Hollywood Reporter has up an article titled “7 Things You Need To Know” about the new AMC show.

The Strain: The show is set to return August 28.

Teen Wolf: Actor Ross Butler has been cast in a recurring role as Nathan, a new lacrosse player.

The Vampire Diaries: Julie Plec spoke with E!Online about the events in the season finale. She also has a blog entry up at EW and an interview with TV Line. TV Line also has up some details about that surprise cameo.

Over at E!Online, the latest Spoiler Room has spoilers on shows Supernatural, Once Upon a Time, The Vampire Diaries, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., 12 Monkeys, and The Originals.

Supernatural (Wednesday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

This week is the penultimate episode of the season, “We Happy Few” (11.22). We have a CW promo, official photos, and an official synopsis.

Titles so far for the season are “Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire” (11.01), “Form and Void” (11.02), “The Bad Seed” (11.03), “Baby” (11.04), “Thin Lizzie” (11.05), “Our Little World” (11.06), “Plush” (11.07), “Just My Imagination” (11.08), “O Brother Where Art Thou?” (11.09), “The Devil in the Details” (11.10), “The Sound of Silence” (now “Into the Mystic” 11.11), “Don’t You Forget About Me” (11.12), “Love Hurts” (11.13), “The Vessel” (11.14), “Beyond the Mat” (11.15), “Safe House” (11.16), “Red Meat” (11.17), “Hell’s Angel” (11.18), “The Chitters” (11.19), “Don’t Call Me Shurley” (11.20), “All in the Family” (11.21), “We Happy Few” (11.22), and season finale “Alpha and Omega” (11.23).

Showrunner Jeremy Carver is leaving to helm a new CW show, Frequency. Replacing him are Andrew Dabb and a returning Bob Singer.

Jenny Klein is also leaving for Jessica Jones.

There appears to be a new staff writer for the show: Steve Yockey, previously of Scream.

Robbie Thompson gave an interview about his leaving the show.

EW reported a non-spoilery spoiler about God and Amara.

Nigel Vonas (who played an Abaddon loyalist who tried to kill Demon Dean in “Black”) gave an interview about his work on the show.

Jensen Ackles got a shout-out last week from TV Line.

Last week’s ratings rose again to 0.7/2 and 1.75 million. The show also came in second again in Nielsen Twitter ratings.

We’ll be back next week with more news, spoilers and blatantly unabashed self-promotion. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, Grimm and Supernatural.


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15 Comments on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 05/18/16”

  1. evave2

    Paula, let me see if you can help me re last night: Lucifer told Sam a while back that Michael had some kind of nervous collapse in Hell, right? Was God saying that was correct last night?

    I thought about it and I can ‘see’ that Hell would have been especially hard on Michael because he was not tainted like Lucifer was. But I just want to be sure.

    So God was saying resurrecting archangels (Gabriel and Raphael) was doable, but they did not have the time? And that fixing Michael from the pollution of hell was doable, but they did not have the time? That archangels are very complex beings, it’s not just, snap the fingers. Is that what you got out of that?

    Because I think they are setting up Michael then to be the Big Bad for Season 12 then. HE gets out and he is pissed nobody helped him get out sooner. (I have thought the SPN version of Hell was like a radioactive wasteland for the soul, even without the torture hurrying it along, human souls became demons due to the toxicity of the place).

    Liked Clea too. Why is Rowena still around? Rats. I gather Crowley assisted in the demon attack on Amara, but I don’t think he died, there was black goop on the ground but I did not see a speck of red.

    I ‘think’ we are heading for Dean to be joining Amara in the Empty. He’ll have the power of all the souls he can consume and She, is well, ‘more’ than God.

    I am ‘so’ glad Lucifer got ganked last night. Boy, he is STILL a whiney brat. The End was on TNT today and I rewatched it twice (once with hubby) and Dean’s assessment of Lucifer’s character still stands. Jared’s acting was truly chilling.

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      Chuck confirmed what Lucifer said about Michael, yes. Yes, that was annoying. I’m thinking he might be the season 12 Big Bad, too. And I’m hoping Lucifer’s ganking sticks.

      He did also confirm that he could reconstruct Gabriel or Raphael, but that it would take too long in the time they had to fight Amara due to the archangels being formed from primordial matter.

      I liked Clea. I shall miss her.

      Crowley is not dead. He’s in the promo for next week. So are Chuck and Castiel (Misha Collins, anyway, whomever he’s playing).

    2. castiels cat

      Ahhh. I like the idea that Dean become more powerful from the souls. I think eventually yellow crayon speech from Dean to talk the powerful angry lady down. They may end forthwith just the two of them in the mist and everything gone.
      Then in 12 a reboot

      Powering Dean up without making him a demon… He could carry the Mark without interference from Sam. Maybe Amara gives him the Mark.

      That bit about Dean being tainted was lame. I think last week was designed for Amara to vent and everyone feels desperate enough to do whatever God suggests. Dean needs a push to deal with her because … feelings.

  2. evave2

    I am surprised SPN got a decent rating, what with Empire having ‘its’ season finale last night.

    And NOW they are moving back to Thursday? So Castiel will be the Angel of Thursday ‘again.’


    I found the Legends of Tomorrow finale very confusing but am glad to the nth that Vandal Savage and the Hawk couple are GONE. Yipes. 4000 to train and Carter probably couldn’t beat ME up and I am a LARGE person, you know?

    I have to say that every season finale I have seen this year is giving me agita. I ‘sure’ hope next week’s SPN finale is as good as last weeks and better than this weeks. Because DAMN if Sam and Dean weren’t the ‘stunt’ couple #3 on their own show.

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      There’s some crossover between SPN and Empire, but SPN has a solid core of viewers who always watch live or at least the same night. No arguments about their being sidelined the past couple of weeks, though. And the whole thing with Sam getting the Mark, even if only for a hot second…ugh.

      I’m guessing the move to Thursdays is an acknowledgement that Arrow is fading. It’s good for me because I watch LoT but not Arrow, anymore. A few weeks back, I might have been sad to see Mrs. and Mr. Hawkman go, but after watching Carter be gormless and Hawkgirl get kidnapped a zillion times because she was a moron, I’m okay with their leaving. Rather less okay about losing Captain Cold, but we’ll see how that goes. And at least Sara’s still in.

      1. evave2

        I saw that the ratings went down due to the Chicago Cubs game on in Chicago BUT I fully expect that the ratings will rise with the +7.

        I laugh whenever they show Arrow just before SPN comes on. EVERY end scene seems to be Eyeglass Girl (is that Felicity Smoak?) telling Arrow to do something. I remember I told you that they had a preview in which Arrow and Ras al Ghul had to sword fight in the snow stripped to the waist and my husband saw it, said, what the heck is THAT? I told him and he said DON’T even try to sneak that one onto our viewing schedule, ok (I mostly pick what we are going to watch by his preferences — like Blacklist or LoT) and told him what YOU said, that this is the tradition of Ras al Ghul’s people. The only selling point for that show is Stephen Arnell’s body. NICE body, but I don’t think he can act. He does a mighty grimace though, I’ll give him that, not even JOHN BARROWMAN could get me to watch, I watched about 5min and he just did not grab me. (He was in the end-view taking over as the bad guy but it was excruciating for me to watch, just awful.)

        Is there going to be a new Prison Break series or a Prison Break movie?

        1. Paula R. Stiles

          It will be a Prison Break short series.

          I stopped watching Arrow when it became clear they were going to make Laurel Black Canary. If they’d tried it right off the bat…maybe, but they waited too long and it was too far outside Katie Cassidy’s wheelhouse. I tried to watch for other reasons, but her poor acting and the writing for her, especially how the writers tried to cater too much to *making* the audience like her, eventually sucked all the enjoyment I was having for the other show.

          It didn’t help that Thea was extremely unpleasant for the first couple of seasons. While she eventually became more likeable as Speedy, the transformation into a superhero felt rushed and unearned, and her “Who’s your baby daddy?” plot didn’t initially make her at all sympathetic. I tire quickly of shows with obnoxious side female characters.

    2. Paula R. Stiles

      I already said this on IMDB, but I think it bears repeating here:

      I have this theory about the show and its season finales. It seems able to hold it together for either the penultimate episode or the season finale itself but not for both. Look at last season’s “The Prisoner,” which was quite good, but then it fell apart a bit in the season finale. AHBL1 and 2 are an opposite case that come to mind where the season finale was much better than the lackluster penultimate episode.

      Even in cases where the penultimate episode is good in and of itself (like “Salvation” in season one), that episode tends to fade into obscurity (in large part because what a penultimate episode gives us for implications in canon isn’t played out in the season finale and is subsequently forgotten) when the season finale is really good.

      It’s as though penultimate episodes are used on this show to tie up storylines, even ones introduced that episode, the show doesn’t intend to revisit.

      So, the fact that they raised and got rid of some storylines I didn’t much care for in the penultimate episode gives me hope that means they’ll have room for the stuff I do want to see–and that this stuff will be what continues into season 12.

      1. evave2

        I hated that poor dumb Rudy died due to Dean’s ‘uncaring’ about his safety. Now if it had been Sam, he WOULD have gotten down, knowing what Dean was going to do, but Rudy was not Sam and was clearly terrified.

        But I ‘did’ like The Prisoner a LOT; loved Dean getting out of police custody especially. (ALSO liked that he did not kill the cops, just all the Stynes he could find.)

        I read somebody else saying they were doing a clean-out of all the possible threads that anybody had ever suggested anywhere. AND ‘loved’ that Lucifer finally got ganked.

        I am glad we agree that it would make sense that Michael comes back and is PISSED to the Nth degree.
        I am sorry that it does not appear they could get Matt Cohen back for an arc (unless his character flames out on General Hospital, I found out this week that he is a priest-neurosurgeon. OH YEAH. That makes sense. Maybe a dress designer on the side?)

        One thing, I cannot figure out why it was not a coordinated attack by angels, demons and witches. Was it that Amara ‘knew’ that Rowena had betrayed her and tripped it too fast so that it was uncoordinated?
        WHY didn’t Chuck/God go to Heaven, wouldn’t it have made the angels who still survived happy to see that God was back?

        And even the 1min that SAM had the MoC was excruciating because he did not stop WHINGING about it. I looked at Dean when he got it, he GRUNTED and that was it. But SAM could not even stand up. That seemed wussy to me.

        I am pissed that they did the CW upfronts this week and Jared and Jensen were in Europe for a convention. My fashion site (tomandlorenzo.com) always does the CW upfronts and I wanted to see them. Do you think that Supergirl will be more successful on CW than on CBS? I don’t think so. They kept Beauty and Beast on because they owned it but the ratings suck BIG TIME and this is its last season. I never got any ‘heat’ re Supergirl (I mean JEB! Bush said she was hot which for me was the kiss of death).

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      It’s based on a very popular comic series from Vertigo back in the 90s. Christian apocalypse type of stuff. A young preacher is “gifted” with the ability to make people do whatever he wants using his voice and goes looking for God. Meanwhile, lots of people want to kill him. It was one of the influences on Supernatural.

      Personally, I found it a bit too cynical and sexist and gave up around issue 10, but as with American Gods and Sandman, an adaptation was inevitable at some point.

      1. evave2

        He ‘appears’ to be wearing a Catholic priest collar but the whole thing seemed Evangelical to me.

        However, it ‘does’ appear interesting so I will probably give it a whirl.

        I have not watched Fear the Walking Dead at ALL this season (I think the people on it were more reprehensible than I could stand) and I chose ‘not’ to watch JDM on Walking Dead because they pissed me off by NOT showing whom he killed. I “hate” when I ‘feel’ the manipulation of art.

        I love JDM, but I don’t want to feel manipulated until the inevitable Rick Wins The Day.

          1. evave2

            That description just made me go Oh Well. Oh well, I will give it a try.

            I know you don’t like Wynonna Earp, but the guy who does Doc Holliday is really terrific in the part. Worth watching just for him managing to avoid spitting thru his mustache.

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