Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 03/07/16

This entry is part 9 of 22 in the series Spoilers 2016: Part 1

Book Two in the Fraterfamilias series, Confraternitas, is out. It’s by Judith Doloughan and our very own Paula R. Stiles. And try our latest antho, Jazz Age Cthulhu. Don’t forget to pick up a copy of Demonstra, Nickronomicon, and Sword and Mythos, all from Innsmouth Free Press, while you’re at it.

This week, we have more news and spoilers about Doctor Who, sci-fi series and Supernatural. You can access previous spoilers columns here.

Last Week in Innsmouth

You can still catch last week’s Whispers, Spoilers and Speculation Corner here, as well as Orrin Grey’s review of Carnacki: The Watcher at the Gate.

Doctor Who (Saturday nights, 9pm, BBC America)

There hasn’t been much information coming out for the new season of Doctor Who (though that might have something to do with the fact that the new season DOESN’T START UNTIL 2017!), but Maisie Williams told Vulture that she would not be returning to the show.

Sci-fi Spoilerpalooza
By Heather S. Vina

Great news for fans of several ABC shows: the network has renewed 11 shows for another season, including Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and Once Upon A Time.

Syfy has picked up a new show for summertime: Aftermath is a 13-episode Canadian post-apocalyptic thriller show.

The 100: There are several post-episode interviews and articles after last week’s latest casualty. Jason Rothernberg spoke with Variety, EW, and TV Line. E!Online has an article about it, as well.

Agent Carter: Hayley Atwell spoke with EW on the end of season two.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Spoiler TV has up the promotional photos for episode 12. TV Line confirmed with showrunners Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen that Ward IS now Hive. Albeit a slightly different version of Hive from the comic book version.

American Gods: The show has cast their Mr. Wednesday: Ian McShane.

American Horror Story: It’s been announced that Lady Gaga will be returning for the new season of the show.

Bitten: Spoiler TV has up the promotional photos for episode five.

Game of Thrones: The Hollywood Reporter is speculating on who could take the throne. Sophie Turner accidently dropped a spoiler for her character, Sansa.

Gotham: TV Line has up an article about the newcomers to Gotham. Ben McKenzie has an interview up with EW.

Lucifer: Spoiler TV has up the press release and official photos for episode eight.

Once Upon A Time: TV Line has up some spoilers for the show’s return. EW has up an article about the 100th episode. The Hollywood Reporter spoke with actors Josh Dallas, Ginnifer Goodwin, Jennifer Morrison, and Lana Parrilla on their highlights of the series. Amy Manson is set to return as Merida.

The Originals: TV Line has up an interview with Nathanial Buzolic about his return to the show. Spoiler TV has up the promotional photos for episode 15.

Orphan Black: TV Line has up the latest promotional photos for season four. There’s also a new promo for the season.

Outlander: There’s a new poster out for season two.

Shadowhunters: Spoiler TV has up the official synopsis and the promotional photos for episode 11.

Sleepy Hollow: Spoiler TV has up the official synopsis and promotional photos for episode 15.

Supergirl: TV Line has up an interview with Laura Vandervoort. EW has up an article with her as well.

The Walking Dead: Steven Yeun told EW what his favorite zombie kill is. Spoiler TV has up the promotional photos for episode 12.

Wayward Pines: The show now has a return date: May 25. Also announced: Actors Terrence Howard, Carla Gugino, Toby Jones, Melissa Leo, Tim Griffin, Shannyn Sossamon, and Charlie Tahan will be returning.

Zoo: The show has added two new actors for season two: Alyssa Diaz (The Vampire Diaries) and Josh Salatin (Show Me a Hero).

Over at EW, the latest Spoiler Room has spoilers on the show, Gotham.

At TV Line, the latest Ask Ausiello has spoilers on shows Once Upon a Time, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Gotham, Shadowhunters, and The 100.

Supernatural (Wednesday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

This week’s repeat is “Don’t You Forget About Me.”

According to the Supernatural Wiki site, the show is on hiatus until March 23, when it returns with “Safe House” (11.16, the season five flashback episode with Bobby and Rufus). So far, we have a CW promo and an official synopsis for it.

Titles so far for the season are “Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire” (11.01), “Form and Void” (11.02), “The Bad Seed” (11.03), “Baby” (11.04), “Thin Lizzie” (11.05), “Our Little World” (11.06), “Plush” (11.07), “Just My Imagination” (11.08), “O Brother Where Art Thou?” (11.09), “The Devil in the Details” (11.10), “The Sound of Silence” (now “Into the Mystic” 11.11), “Don’t You Forget About Me” (11.12), “Love Hurts” (11.13), “The Vessel” (11.14), “Beyond the Mat” (11.15), “Safe House” (11.16), “Unknown Title” (11.17), and “Red Meat” (11.18).

The synopsis for the next episode, “Safe House” (11.16) is out:

JIM BEAVER RETURNS – A dangerous creature is accidentally released into an old house, attacking a mother and her child, leaving them both in a coma. Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) learn that Bobby (guest star Jim Beaver) and Rufus (guest star Steven Williams) once tracked the same entity so the Winchesters look to the past to come up with a plan to catch the monster before anyone dies. Stefan Pleszczynski directed the episode written by Robbie Thompson. (#1116) Original airdate 3/23/16.

Episode 11.20 will be directed by Robert Singer.

Jensen Ackles was seen leaving a bit early (Wednesday) last week for home, with a bad head cold. This would be during the filming for 11.20.

The season finale will be written by Andrew Dabb.

Jared Padalecki is doing a new “Always Keep Fighting” campaign that is related to Misha Collins’ and Jensen Ackles’ “You Are Not Alone” campaign.

There’s a new interview out with Dee Wallace.

No repeat last week, so no same-night ratings this week. In Live+7 ratings for the week of February 3, the show rose from a 0.7 to a 1.2 in the A18-49 demo and from 1.866 million to 2.779 million in audience.

We’ll be back next week with more news, spoilers and blatantly unabashed self-promotion. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, Grimm and Supernatural.

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20 Comments on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 03/07/16”

  1. evave2

    Lots of questions, Paula: did you see the new syfy (canNOT get used to that spelling, probably got it wrong) show Aftermath? It looks interesting to me in a way Defiance did not. (I stuck with Defiance for two years but then it just got to be more than I could handle. I never know if I give up too soon. For instance, I watched the first half dozen shows for Dominion, but I really disliked that show’s take on angels. And I thought Michael should have been the most awesome character ever. But he wasn’t. But you said that probably right after I left the show ‘did’ become really good but by then it was just out of my circulating memory.) I am hoping that it’s good.

    Should Jensen have ‘gone home’ with a head cold? Isn’t getting on a plane really bad for colds (I did it once and really suffered worse)?

    I think a rise from .7 to 1.2 is a HUGE rise in the ratings. But in this dvr age is that pretty usual? Every one in a while spoilertv.com puts out the +7 ratings and it generally looks like SPN has quite a huge jump (more so than most of the other shows on the list) but I really can’t tell.

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      I’ve been ignoring Syfy’s new entries. Tried The Magicians partly by accident and boy, did it suck. Pretty young people doing some college version of Hogwart’s but without Rowling’s talent and light hand for characterization. Just getting through Lost Girl and may blow off the whole channel for a while…well, okay, I will probably check out Wynona Earp if I remember.

      The spelling of Syfy never stops being stupid, I’m afraid, but they seem determined to keep it. Screw Bonnie Hammer.

      Season two of Dominion actually improved on season one because they blew up Gabriel’s aerie and forced him on the road. Plus, he and Michael teamed up (which was lots of fun to watch). And they teamed up Alex with Nona then sent them out on the road, too (which was also a lot more fun to watch than Alex and his Twu Wuv moping about Vegas–sorry, Vega). Wasn’t perfect, but it was finally gelling at the end of season two.

      Season three of Defiance was actually really good. Like, really, really good. For one thing, they finally got with the program and realized that the humans were the Native Americans in the scenario, not the Europeans. And then they did all this stuff with Nolan and Amanda along that vein. Plus, the Omec actually turned out to be really interesting. There was all this play on race and insanity and genocide and slavery and cultural appropriation and slut-shaming and rape that was actually edgy in an *interesting* way that made you think–as in, somebody finally sat down and read up on some very Early American history and then said, “You know what? Doing the 19th century is all wrong and anyway, it’s been done a lot. Let’s do the *16th* century.” And then they had this brilliant ending that was unexpectedly hopeful, not just for Nolan (and Doc Yewll), but for the entire human race (“We’re going to Jackson,” best final line ever).

      Yeah, it was kinda sad when they canceled it after only three seasons, and they probably could have done a fourth season, but the ending was such a perfect series ending that I’m rather glad they didn’t.

      I am not usually one to argue that people keep watching just in case a show gets better (because failing shows that are failing because they suck almost never improve), but in this case, I strongly advise watching season three. I was really impressed. They went balls to the wall on it.

      I was under the impression that Ackles was going home, anyway, since he usually powers through illnesses. As for getting on a plane with a head cold, hey, it’s time off.

      That kind of rise in the Live+7 ratings is not especially unusual these days, but it does show how Supernatural is likely being watched as much as ever, just in a very different way from 11 years ago. I find it difficult to believe Creation could command the prices it does for Supernatural cons if nobody watched the show. There simply would not be an audience for it.

      1. evave2

        I did not make it thru the first two episodes (Syfy ran them both together) of The Magicians. Just was not interested in the lead.

        You said above that Aftermath is a Canadian production so I wondered if you saw it on a Canadian network.

        I think I looked it up once and was shocked that Creation charges so much (I seem to remember it was $1000.00!) for the Gold Plate Special in which you get to ask questions. I always got a lot of questions but I think I’ll spend my $1000.00 on something else (like my kids). I remember reading that J2 almost double their salaries by going to cons (they seem to be discussed every two weeks so GOD that must get tough after a while — it’s like you always think being a priest and hearing confessions would be so interesting and then you find out that it’s the same 5 or 6 sins and GOD it is boring — and I wonder if they ever ‘do’ get new questions or insights). My daughter lives in Las Vegas and I thought about going to VegasCon (hey, I could stay at her place for free) but I ‘really’ thought the package was too much (don’t remember how much now, just wanted to ask a question or two and said ONE THOUSANDS DOLLARS no way, honey).

        1. Paula R. Stiles

          That was Heather and I think she was just reporting the info from the media sources she found.

          The meet-and-greets are not the only way to meet the guests and while I’d love to go to a few, I agree that the auction rates you end up paying are not worth it. No wonder the stans dominate them. But you can also ask them questions in the Q&As (though there’s a lottery for Collins, Padalecki and Ackles now), or meet them one-on-one in the photo ops and autograph lines. Mark Sheppard’s Q&As are hilarious. He totally messes with the fans who line up to ask him stuff and they love every masochistic minute of it. Misha Collins does this, too, though he also gets stranger fans.

          Keep in mind that photo ops are rushed and, as the guests become more important, the time you get with them the autograph lines shrinks. But if you’ve read my report on Jaxcon, you’ll see that there are ways to connect with the guests.

          Personally, I would recommend getting a Gold pass just because it’s more bang for your buck than the others and it is worth sitting up near the front. As for whether Vegas would be as fun as Jaxcon unexpectedly turned out to be, I couldn’t say. Even as regimented as the Creation cons are, each one’s different.

  2. evave2

    OHOH I forgot to mention that I watched The Lair of the White Worm (a Ken Russell version of a Bram Stoker novel) this weekend. My husband and I had a HOOT watching it. Does that fit the horror genre for you? It was SO British we laughed and then there would be gore-visions and fanged nuns and all kinds of stuff breaking out.

    “I have to go home to put the kettle on for tea.” AHHHH It’s the bloody SNAKES. And Peter Capaldi was in it. Boy, did he look young.

    1. Castiel’s Cat

      I have never seem Lair…
      Ken Russell was a well regarded director in the seventies and eighties.

    2. Paula R. Stiles

      Eva, I loved the crap out of Lair of the White Worm when I saw it back in the late 80s. What a deliriously insane film! And very creepy and disturbing, too. Definitely horror. And yes, Capaldi was very Scottish and very fetching in that kilt. I should see if Librivox.org has the book on audio. I’m currently listening to Elliott O’Donnell’s book on werewolves.

      CC, you should definitely check it out. It’s as much about folklore as it is about horror. Sort of a Northern England version of Machen’s take on Welsh folklore but with better plotting (Machen couldn’t plot his way out of a disintegrating wet paper bag and had lots of self-hatred issues about his Welsh identity, on top of the usual Late Victorian/Edwardian misogyny).

      1. evave2

        I had seen the film on a commercial network years ago and said Hey Amanda Donohoe and Hugh Grant!

        But what really got me laughing and laughing with my husband (we were drinking Belgian Kriek Lambics and eating cheese and just laughing our ever-loving asses off) were the ‘visions’ that Russell inserted that were not in the commercial network run I saw previously (this was without commercials on a Starz network).

        First Katherine Oxenberg had a vision of herself as a hot nun, and the were Roman soldiers who I assume were in the employ of the ‘crazed’ Emperor Carasius who broke into the convent built on the site of Dionin’s (snake god) temple. The nuns were all hot and he showed rapes. I know that was not funny, but everybody was fully clothed and humping and the snake kept winding its way thru the scene. I remembered a Monty Python skit “Ken Russel’s Tea Party” which had people in a summer garden with pork pie hats laughing and laughing and then some guy cuts his hands off when the piano key lid falls on his hands while he’s playing and there were copious amounts of blood spurting all over. And people were eating crumpets while there was a naked woman having sex with some fully-clothed dude on a table next to the crumpet eaters. PERFECT.

        Later Hugh had a vision of an airplane ride (the two good girls and the very bad girl were stewardesses) and Hugh got tied to his seat and he was holding a red sharpie unlidded with the red tip UP in his lap watching a good girl stewardess and the bad girl stewardess wrestle. Getting into an airplane is supposed to be a phallic insert (from dream study) AND holding his pen up With the RED TIP up was so phallic we actually had to stop the dvr because I was laughing so hard I began to cough and almost worked myself into an asthma attack.

        OH that was a great film. And Peter Capaldi in a kilt playing the bagpipe and luring all the snakes to their doom. Oh sweet Jesus, I loved that movie.

        Ken really went for it. CC, PLEASE see the movie. It was worth nearly going unconscious for the plane scene alone.

        1. Paula R. Stiles

          There are some genuinely chilling moments (like the death of the delivery boy early on), but I agree that a lot of the fun of Ken Russell movies is seeing how far and how weird he’s going to get.

  3. gail

    Was just looking at the guest list for Vegas Con and Jake Able is on it, does that mean if Michael comes back it will be as Jake? When I saw it I just thought, Oh Crap, not again.

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      While it’s always been possible that Jake Abel could come back, I don’t think it’s any more likely than before now he’s doing a Creation con. Sebastian Roche has been doing cons for years and not only is his character dead, but he’s long since moved on to other shows. It really comes down to what the con can negotiate with the actor’s agent.

      The thing is that Abel is, and has been, very busy and could well be too expensive for the show now. If Michael did come back, logically, he ought to be played by Abel at first (not least because Matt Cohen isn’t really available right now, since he’s doing General Hospital). With Abel gone, they’d need to go straight to Dean talking to himself, which is a strain on Jensen Ackles. So, that would explain the delay in bringing back Michael.

      1. evave2

        Hey, I loved The End when Jensen talked to himself for about half an hour. I liked Jake Abel quite a bit in Jump the Shark AND Point of No Return. It was his Michael that sucked big time. We have had seasons of Sam and Dean beating the crap out of each other so I was ‘set’ for a mano a mano no holds barred brawl.

        Jake Abel proved to me he could act as two different characters in his previous episodes, but he just did NOT have the physicality to pull off Michael. I know the spiritual level is the level here but Michael could just as well have been played by a child (hey, bring back Jesse the Anti-christ); when it was Lillith it was creepy, and I ‘know’ on a spiritual plane Michael HAD beaten the crap out of Lucifer, but it was totally unbelievable that Jake Abel could beat up Jared Padalecki. Just a stupid decision. (Wonder why they did not bring back Matt Cohen, HE could act the hell out of Michael’s gravitas.)

        1. Paula R. Stiles

          Everybody loved double Dean in “The End.” The problem is that it’s exhausting for Ackles–*really* exhausting.

          They did bring Cohen back in the dream sequence in “Baby,” but to go further would involve bringing John back, which I don’t think they are ready to do. As for Abel…yeah. I’m okay with dismissing Adam’s fate with a single comment from Michael that Adam’s been in Heaven all this time and moving on.

  4. gail

    I was watching OTHoaP last week and was thinking, I miss the days when only angles and Dean could kill angles and ones that I like, like Sebastian. Is GH still on? Many, many years ago I would hurry home from school to watch GH, OLTL and Dark Shadows,didn’t know an of them are still on. The only thing I watch at home now is the news for the weather, GRIT was the only other channel I was watching until the network replaced it with a channel of infomercials and really bad sci-fi, so my TV is off most of the time or I watch DVD’s of shows I like. I’m with you Paula on how Adam can go, he does not make a good Michael.

    1. Marisol

      Yes! Now they can do the Sam not looking for Dean in Purgatory redemption arc when Dean is sucked into the empty in the season finale and Sam goes all out next season (or for at least 3 episodes) to find Dean and bring him back.

      1. Paula R. Stiles

        Well, it’s not as though Dean would stay in the Empty, anyway. He’ll find a way to claw his way out (also, characters escaping from Limbo when it’s supposed to be impossible is kind of a Carver thing).

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