Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 02/15/16: The Valentine’s Day Edition

This entry is part 6 of 22 in the series Spoilers 2016: Part 1

Book Two in the Fraterfamilias series, Confraternitas, is out. It’s by Judith Doloughan and our very own Paula R. Stiles. And try our latest antho, Jazz Age Cthulhu. Don’t forget to pick up a copy of Demonstra, Nickronomicon, and Sword and Mythos, all from Innsmouth Free Press, while you’re at it.

This week, we have more news and spoilers about sci-fi series and Supernatural. You can access previous spoilers columns here.


Last Week in Innsmouth

You can still catch last week’s Whispers, Spoilers and Speculation Corner here, as well as our latest Gods and Monsters column about the Supernatural convention in Jacksonville last month.


Sci-fi Spoilerpalooza
By Heather S. Vina

Good news for fans of Syfy’s The Magicians: The show has been renewed for a second season.

For fans of the CW’s Beauty and the Beast and those who were looking forward to the new show Containment, the CW has announced airdates for both: Containment will air on April 19 and Beauty and the Beast will air on June 2.

The new Star Trek series has found its showrunner in Bryan Fuller. He’ll serve as Executive Producer alongside already announced Alex Kurtzman.

Grant Gustin shared on his Instagram the first photo of the new The Flash/Supergirl crossover.

12 Monkeys: Hulu has acquired the rights to season one of the show.

The 100: Variety has up their second part of an interview with showrunner Jason Rothenberg. (Here is Part One.) The Hollywood Reporter also spoke with Rothenberg about the events of the episode.

Agent Carter: Spoiler TV has up the press release for the season finale.

Ash vs Evil Dead: The show has cast Lee Majors (The Six Million Dollar Man) as Ash’s dad. Ted Raimi has also been announced for season two.

The Flash Executive Producers Aaron Helbing and Todd Helbing spoke with TV Line about the gang’s visit to Earth-2 last week. Actor Andy Mientus is set to return as Pied Piper. TV Line has up the extended promo for the next few episodes.

Game of Thrones: EW has up the latest promotional photos for the new season.

iZombie: TV Line has up the promotional photos for episode 15.

Legends of Tomorrow: Showrunner Marc Guggenheim spoke with EW on whether or not the team can ever really defeat Vandal Savage.

The Magicians: The Hollywood Reporter spoke with showrunner Sera Gamble on what comes next for the characters.

Preacher: Jackie Earl Haley has been cast in a recurring role as one of the comic’s worst characters, Odin Quincannon.

Once Upon A Time: The show has cast the young actresses who will play Young Zelena and Young Regina.

Outlander: The show will return on April 9.

The Walking Dead: Steven Yeun spoke with E!Online about the “Is Glenn dead?” controversy. EW has up an interview with executive producer Greg Nicotero. They also have up an interview with Danai Gurira and one with Steven Yeun. Actress Alicia Witt announced on her twitter that she is joining the show. TV Line has up an article titled “5 Things You Need to Know About the Midseason Premiere.” EW also has up a very cool photo of a reunion of all the “dead” cast members of the show. They also have a fun cast photo of the original six cast members still on the show.

The X-Files: Actress Lauren Ambrose spoke with TV Line about her upcoming appearance on the show. Glen Morgan spoke with EW on the events of last week’s episode and what they mean for Scully.

Over at EW, the latest Spoiler Room has spoilers on shows The Flash, The Vampire Diaries, Gotham, and Jessica Jones.

And last week’s Spoiler Room has spoilers on shows Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., The 100, The Originals, The Flash, The Vampire Diaries, and Once Upon a Time.


Supernatural (Tuesday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

This week is “The Vessel” (11.14). So far, we have a promo, official photos, and an official synopsis.

Titles so far for the season are “Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire” (11.01), “Form and Void” (11.02), “The Bad Seed” (11.03), “Baby” (11.04), “Thin Lizzie” (11.05), “Our Little World” (11.06), “Plush” (11.07), “Just My Imagination” (11.08), “O Brother Where Art Thou?” (11.09), “The Devil in the Details” (11.10), “The Sound of Silence” (now “Into the Mystic” 11.11), “Don’t You Forget About Me” (11.12), “Love Hurts” (11.13), “The Vessel” (11.14), “Beyond the Mat” (11.15), “Unknown Title” (11.16), “Unknown Title” (11.17), and “Red Meat” (11.18).

A late sneak peek came out for Valentine-themed episode “Love Hurts” (11.14).

There was a new con this past weekend in Houston. Mark Sheppard was unable to attend, apparently due to the imminent arrival of his daughter.

Misha Collins and Jensen Ackles launched a related charity to Always Keep Fighting, “You Are Not Alone.” This will be a mental health hotline. Jared Padalecki and Mark Sheppard also joined in. As part of the promotion, Collins added a brief video from the con of valentine-making in the Green Room at the Houston con, as well as another one comparing the Green Room to an Alice Cooper concert “twenty or thirty years ago.”

Our full report for last month’s con in Jacksonville came out last week.

The show rose in the demo to 0.8/2 and dipped slightly to 1.83 million for “Love Hurts.” With Legends of Tomorrow rating 0.1 higher, the show came in at a healthy fourth place last week.


We’ll be back next week with more news, spoilers and blatantly unabashed self-promotion. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, Grimm and Supernatural.


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17 Comments on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 02/15/16: The Valentine’s Day Edition”

  1. evave2

    D’uh: I think in order to use the Hand of God you need to bear the angel sigil.

    Well, it makes sense to me.

  2. evave2

    Oh I had a second thought: both Dean and Lucifer bore the MARK of Cain. I wonder if having the Mark means they can’t use the Hand of God. So it could just be Dean and Lucifer who can’t use it.

    Well, it makes sense to me.

      1. evave2

        I will watch again today to see if Sam touched it.

        I meant that Delphine (in 1943) did not know about angels. Her angel-warding sigil was a general sigil. right? Meant to repel ‘everything’ and ‘anything’?

        She said it bonded to her whole ‘self’ so maybe somebody needs the ‘warding’ sigil to be tattooed on and become boned and then can use the Hand of God.

        Anyhoo, since they know the warding sigil even keeps out an Archangel, they’ll just need to put it up and we will have no more of that wacky Casifer bouncing around.

        Do you think they will summon Crowley and get him out of his oven? Why is Lucifer even showing the ‘pretense’ of ruling Hell? EVERYBODY hates Hell, nobody wants to be there (I think this is the earthly Throne of Hell which they built for Crowley because EVERYBODY hates Hell and nobody wants to be there).

        1. Paula R. Stiles

          We didn’t see Sam touch it. Delphine never said Dean couldn’t use the Hand. She just said it would kill him. It would kill any human being.

          While technically, Casifer has an experimental spell he could try on the Bunker, it apparently didn’t work before and yes, now, they have super-angel warding. They can use that to keep him out of the Bunker. They can even use it to trap him.

          As for “ruling” Hell, I think Lucifer just likes to screw with the angels. To him, they’re just cannon fodder, only they’re too stupid to realize it.

  3. evave2

    Oh my gosh, I meant BONDED with the sigil, not BONED.

    Brought back a memory of Dean saying, let’s bone this nun when they needed something from Sister Mary Constant back in the Leviathan story. Previously he had said, let’s juice this freak, when they were going for the Alpha Vampire’s blood.

  4. gail

    Just saw the episode and liked it, I must say I like MC as Lucifer much better than MP. To bad they had to kill Delphine she was good.

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      Yeah, I’m gonna miss Delphine, but there are ways to bring her back.

      Kinda glad they’re stepping down from the douchbaggery of the sexist MoL in “Slumber Party” and even “As Time Goes Back,” frankly. I like seeing historical Women of Letters. It also makes the MoL’s centuries-long battle with the Grand Coven more ambiguous.

      1. Castiel’s Cat

        All of these lady MOL … one would tbink the show is going out if it’s way to promote feminist themes because of Amara. If one thought about stuff.

  5. evave2

    OK is it a good thought that the Hand of God is like the First Blade in that you need a ‘mark’ (the super-duper supernatural sigil) to activate the Hand of God like Dean needed the Mark of Cain to activate the First Blade?

    I watched it again with husband and he has proposed a drinking game for whenever Sam is tied up. I said that is only one drink a week.

    I turned on Bad Day at Black Rock this morning and…there was Sam tied to a chair. I said, it is TOO early to drink.

    OK last night Legends of Tomorrow got a point 8 just like Supernatural. I could not understand the ‘numbers’ so did SPN actually have a higher rating than LOT? I am enjoying LOT. I really like Caity Lodz (thank you for mentioning her previously, Paula, that was why I started looking at her specially).

    I wanted to agree how Jensen Ackles showed that Dean was devastated by what he witnessed on the sub. Dean must be so sick of meeting people that die. I was wondering if he had time to/could ask “Cas” to bring all the people from the sub to the future. But it would be human nature, they ‘would’ eventually look up their families, find out how things went for those they loved and thus break into a time conundrum.

    Peter (husband) agreed that “Casifer” was ‘begging’ Sam to notice he was not Castiel. Peter said, GOLLY Sam is just clueless in this episode. But that business with Castiel stopping Lucifer from killing Sam showed me that Lucifer Never Learns! Asserting he was going to beat Dean to death and then proceeding to do so, permitted Sam to gain the upperhand with Lucifer; asserting he was going to kill Sam had the same effect. So Lucifer can’t kill Sam OR Dean. That must tick Lucifer off.

    1. Paula R. Stiles

      I don’t understand where you are getting the idea that Delphine’s protection mark is in any way related to the Hand of God.

      SPN got slightly lower, since the 3 in the second part of the demo is higher than a 2. That number is not particular relevant these days, though.

      1. evave2

        Thank you re the ratings. I am just so pleased that SPN is going up.

        So you think my super-duper angel sigil idea is verkackte? Ok. It’s just it would explain why Delphine could use it but not Lucifer (and Dean was just holding it, he wasn’t trying to use it, maybe that had something to do with it).

    2. AlyCat22

      Evave – the sigil both on the sub and Delphine were protection to keep her and the artifact (Hand of God) safe. It didn’t have any bearing on the use of the Hand of God. She told Dean not to touch it barehanded because it’s power is potent and unstable and no mortal can survive long with direct contact. Of course at this point you could question just how mortal Dean is what with all he’s gone through and the unknown status of whether or not the MOC is completely out of his system, but that’s for another day. Delphine used it because it was the best way to kill her/destroy the sigil so that Dean could return but also to take out the Nazi necromancers and the German ship. I maintain that whether Dean had been there or not she still would have used the Hand because the German Commander told the ship’s captain if they didn’t surrender her and the artifact that he would send their ship to the bottom, killing them all and retrieve it anyway. He also told her he was a friend of the Thule and to destroy him she would’ve had to burn his body after killing him. He also insinuated that the crew was the same as he was by saying ‘you are up against a warship and a crew possessing, let us say, “extraordinary abilities” Whether she knew about the Nazi Necromancers or not is debatable but I think she’d seen/heard enough to know things weren’t “normal” So she used the Hand to destroy their ship sacrificing herself and the crew to ensure the Nazis never got hold of it. Dean truly was an observer.

    3. Castiel’s Cat

      Poor Dean. He’s not going to get away with sacrificing himself this season to save Cas or Sam.

      1. Paula R. Stiles

        I sure hope not. I like seeing the characters do something different for a change. I’m sure he’ll try, but he’s too valuable a player now.

        I think it’s interesting that Dean perceives his new status as being nothing but an observer. Delphine and the crew deliberately sacrificed themselves because they felt Dean’s mission was more important than letting him save them. Lucifer, for all his hatred of Dean, felt no choice but to let Dean retrieve the Hand and bring him back. Castiel felt he couldn’t expel Lucifer because Dean *had* to be saved. Sam risked his own soul to ensure “Castiel” had the power to bring Dean back. All of these people sacrificed themselves because *only* Dean can get this job done and save the world. As Rick tells Ilsa about their love compared to her husband’s mission, “It doesn’t take much to see that the problems of three little people don’t mean a thing in this crazy world.”

        Dean hates letting people do this and I think that might be because, thanks to alt2014!Dean from “The End,” he knows he’s quite capable of cold-bloodedly letting his followers get themselves killed so that he has one shot at the Big Bad.

        Also, I know Dean feels he can’t break Amara’s hold over him, but that hold is but a minor inconvenience compared to how anyone else wouldn’t last ten seconds in her presence. Her glamour on Dean is a solvable problem. Fighting her overwhelming, God-level power and willingness to use it, not so much.

        1. Castiel’s Cat

          It’s pretty obvious after Kove, Hurts abd this episode that Dean’s role is too important to sacrifice himself.

          I don’t think it bodes well for Cas or, Sam thought. Cas, because Lucifer needs to die. And, Sam because I think Dean has to retake the Mark by killing his brother.

          Before the vessel I didn’t think it was ever possible that Dean would do this. Now….

        2. Castiel’s Cat

          Dean has stabbed her twice. They didn’t have a good weapon yet.
          Anyhow I don’t think he will kill her. There’s genuine sympathy.

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