TV Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 1/25/11

This week, we have spoilers from V and Supernatural:

V (Tuesday nights, 9pm, ABC)
By Silvia Moreno-Garcia

Well, in case you were thinking alien reptiles are soon to be extinct, think again. Executive producer Steve Pearlman recently said a third season of the show is still a possibility and the ratings are not that bad.

Joel Gretsch talked about playing a priest: “You don’t want to offend people…You don’t want to be too righteous, there’s a relationship with Erica where you don’t want to push too many buttons.”

Jane Badler talked about her career, her new album and her new role on TV.

Press releases with summaries of future episodes, plus photos, have been released. You can find them by clicking through the VFiles website. In super-summary:

  • Episode 4: The Vatican doesn’t trust no aliens
  • Episode 5: Let’s kill Anna during a gala function
  • Episode 6: Secret grandma reveal

If you are looking for an LOL, check out the comments of io9’s latest review of the show. One person declares, “They switched writers to try the theory of monkeys with typewriters.”

I conclude with my usual sign-off: may Lisa’s impending sexual maturity mean she gets an unstoppable urge to bang Joshua. This show owes me at least one scene with Mark Hildreth shirtless. Please keep Tyler dressed. Thanks!

Supernatural (Friday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

We had a fair number of new spoilers, despite there not being a convention this past weekend.

We start off with a new CW promo for 6.12 and 6.13 and a clip from 6.12. The promo shows the virgin/dragon stuff (though it doesn’t show the dragon outright); Sam clobbering a woman (who seems to be standing in front of Dean); Dean saying to Sam, “We have a habit of leaving messes behind”; Grandpa Shady freeing a guy’s face from a cocoon; a black guy with weird growths on his face and weird, white, spider eyes and black spots instead of pupils, saying, “I look good, Sammy”; Sam (probably the Sambot version) being seduced in a bathroom by a woman in a red dress  and later, shooting someone (Remember that this episode was originally called “Kiss of the Spider-Man” and not “Unforgiven”); and Dean running while being chased by the Impala; then Sam saying, “That sounds healthy!” Note that Dean says this in the Pilot to Sam when Sam says he has no intention of telling Jessica he’s a hunter.

There has been a lot of drooling over Sam’s sex scene. But even if I didn’t find public bathroom sex a big turn-off (You ever have a job cleaning public bathrooms? They are really scuzzy), I’m a little skeptical of any sex scene in an episode involving spiders because, you know, what with Black Widows and such, a nasty-gross ending to that scene seems almost guaranteed.

The clip is of Dean and Castiel discussing the condition of Sam’s soul, while Sam lies comatose on the cot in the panic room, with an IV in his arm. Castiel says that Sam’s soul is intact but flayed and questions the wisdom of Dean having Death shove it back into Sam’s body. When Dean asks Castiel if Sam will ever wake up, Castiel says, “Probably not.”

There’s been a lot of speculation about the state of Sam’s soul. Now, come on, people, Jared Padalecki is not going anywhere and they have half a season left. You know there will be this big build-up and then probably not much will happen with Sam in the end. Perhaps they’ll find a quick fix for him in the AUverse, or he’ll figure out how to fix himself. But ultimately, with photos as far up as 6.16 showing Sam looking pretty damned healthy, the likelihood of his ending up a ball of drool any time soon seems low.

Compare this to Dean, now, and you may have a different story (I sense a heap of story misdirection coming down the pike). Death told Dean flat-out in 6.11 that he was “an affront to the balance of the universe” and that “you cause disruption on a global scale.” Tessa echoed this, as well. The new promo indicates that Dean is becoming aware of what this really means, but his twitchiness with Castiel during the clip shows considerable denial still at work inside his screwed-up head.

If Sam in earlier seasons was the young man with a dark family curse of which he was unaware, Dean has become this season like the father in “The Monkey’s Paw”, doing really terrible things to save Sam. There have been hints all season that those things may be even more terrible than what Sambot did. After all, somebody has thrown the orbit of the earth out of whack and riled up a boatload of MOTWs, and look who just got accused of causing “disruption on a global scale”.

It could be that Death was not referring to Dean’s deal at the end of season two, but to something we haven’t yet heard about, something to do with all those books Dean collected during that missing year with Lisa and Ben, all those avenues he tried. As I’ve said in some reviews, the Winchesters are well-versed in some very black magic and have not been averse to using to to their own ends. So, depending on your vantage point, Dean is one mighty unstable, reckless, and alcoholic necromancer, and as Lovecraft and his contemporaries taught us almost a century ago, that’s never good.

6.17 (the western episode) is now called “Trail of the Dead” instead of “The Gallows Pole” (Not that I mind the new title, but I liked the old one. Why can’t they get rid of the sucky ones instead of the good ones?). 6.18 is called “Your Time Is Gonna Come” (From the sound of that title, that may be the one where Dean goes gunning for Walt and Roy, another hint that Dean may be teetering on the edge of some disastrous decisions in the second half of the season).

We’ve got new casting news for Raphael, who will be coming back in a female vessel in 6.15 (hence the title, “The French Mistake”), played by Lanette Ware, who has a very interesting resume. Meanwhile, Brian Doyle Murphy plays AU Bobby in 6.15.

Also, Rob Benedict will be back as Chuck and Samantha Ferris will be back as Ellen. No word on how they will come back, whether either of them will be in the alternate universe episode (unlikely, since they just confirmed it and production is now on 6.16 or 6.17), or whether Chuck will be confirmed as God and Ellen come back as a ghost (I definitely do not want the former, but if it does occur, as much as I like Benedict and used to like Chuck, I hope Death comes back and reaps his ass). It’s possible that Benedict has not come back yet, which means he wouldn’t be in the alternate universe episode.

Actress April Telek has been tweeting excitedly about getting a “co-starring” role on the show. Nice to see some more actresses over the age of 30 on the show. They usually turn out well (Ellen, Pamela, Missouri…like that). She won’t confirm which episode, but she says she starts filming on Wednesday for a week or so and the episode airs in “a couple of months”, so most likely, she means 6.17. Possibly, she’s the one playing Castiel’s angelic lieutenant, Rachel? It sounds like an extensive role.

Jim Beaver mentioned that he would be in 6.17.

Ausiello gave a little more detail about 6.17:

Question: It seems like it’s been forever since there was some big Supernatural scoop? – Jeff
Ausiello: Oh, really? Well, have you heard that Cass is getting a sidekick? Because he is. Rachel – as yet uncast – will be a pretty twentysomething angel with a finely tuned BS detector. Also, when Sam and Dean visit the Old West later this season, they’ll meet, ironically, an Easterner: Samuel Colt, a middle-aged hunter who’s tarnished his own legend by becoming more interested in pouring his next drink than firing his next shot. You reckon he’ll be able to help them dispatch Elias Finch, the innocent specter out for vengeance after being hung?”

Lisa and Ben will definitely be back in 6.14 and there is a synopsis out:

“’SUPERNATURAL’ – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET)
“’Mannequin 3: The Reckoning’ (CONTENT RATING TBD) (HDTV)
“DEAN RUSHES HOME TO CHECK ON LISA — Ben (guest star Nicolas Elia) calls Dean (Jensen Ackles) and tells him Lisa (guest star Cindy Sampson) is in trouble. Dean leaves Sam (Jared Padalecki) to investigate a case alone and rushes home to rescue Lisa, however, he’s not prepared for what meets him at the door. Meanwhile, Sam discovers the men that were murdered were all a part of a cruel practical joke played on a female co-worker who went missing. Jeannot Szwarc directed the episode written by Eric Charmelo & Nicole Snyder (##614).”

Some are speculating that this could be the end of Dean/Lisa. I don’t think so. If they wanted no more Dean/Lisa, they’d have left it at her Dear John phone call in 6.06. Also, Ben calling Dean implies that they want to continue Dean’s relationship with Ben and have Ben continue to see Dean as a father figure. Ben seemed freaked out by Vampire Dean shoving him in 6.05, so if he’s calling Dean, that’s a big development and likely has something to do with Ben’s declaration to Dean in 6.02 that he wanted to grow up to become a hunter. Conceivably, I suppose, they could have Ben hunting at some point if the show went on long enough, as he would be 14 in season eight.

Also, the set spoilers a while back (since taken down) that indicated Lisa was going out on a date…if those are true, anybody think Lisa’s new squeeze might be an MOTW?

Incidentally, the director of this one is Argentinian and has directed a boatload of Smallville episodes, as well as films like Somewhere in Time and The Murders in the Rue Morgue, and one of my more favourite minor Sam Neill flicks, Enigma.

A run of photos involving a funeral (supposedly from 6.18, but I think they were still filming 6.16 at the time) show Sam, Bobby and Dean standing in a graveyard and pouring Johnny Walker Blue Label on a grave, which strongly implies that Rufus dies in that episode. No, I’m not happy about that, either, but I’m going to wait and see, and all that jazz. Dean looks upset and is standing a little away from the others. Sam and Bobby are standing together, looking at him in sympathy or concern. It’s raining, but, well…it is Vancouver in January.

Jim Beaver tweeted slightly more detail about this episode. He also mentioned that practically everyone but Jared Padalecki was sick on set, so the voices in this episode should be interesting. Beaver further tweeted about “lots of stunts, fights, stabbings, electrocutions, and other mayhem. Hope some of us survive!” for 6.16 and being “wrapped in duct tape”. He just finished shooting for the episode yesterday.

In the latest issue of Supernatural Magazine, Misha Collins reiterated some previous spoilers about Castiel, with a little more detail about Castiel’s overall involvement: “As the season unfolds, we’re going to see that the bigger [Heaven’s war] mythology actually does tie in with this heightened monster activity [with the alphas]…Cass’ role is going to figure prominently in the mythology of the season overall. He’s lighter in the first half of the season than he’s going to be in the second half.” I think this might be the first time that someone with the show has admitted that the War in Heaven (and Castiel) will be a major part of the season uberplot.

We will get five new episodes, starting this Friday, all through February, and then the entire month of March will be repeats (Calm down there out in the peanut gallery with the wailing and gnashing of teeth. This happens every spring). Since we only have 11 episodes left and the season usually ends the week of May 13, that means we’ll either not go off the hiatus until April 8 or there will be another brief hiatus of one week in April or early May. Otherwise, it should be all-new episodes to the end of the season once it comes off the hiatus.

Ask Kristin has a fresh non-spoilery spoiler out:

John in Tucson: Is Mark Pellegrino coming back to Supernatural?
“Speak of the devil! We just asked Mark, who is now starring on Being Human (for which writer Jeremy Carver left Supernatural to helm), this very question. ‘I think that in the Supernatural realm anything is possible,’ Mark told us, ‘but in the same token, it seems as if Lucifer used up the vessel. I was falling apart!’ Mark laughed and added, ‘I’m hoping Nick has a resurgence and becomes a devil hunter.’”

Think that’s a negative, Ghost Rider.

On a side note, ONTD is totally killing me with the cute animal huggy gifs. Damn you, ONTD [shakes fist in the general direction of LiveJournal]. Stop it with the adorable, snake-stomping dachsund and the stuffed-animal-hugging kitties that are loaded to dangerous levels with “Awww”!

An anonymous CW insider claimed that The Vampire Diaries, 90210 and Gossip Girl would be renewed, with Supernatural being still on the uncertain list.

Finally, Fringe moved to Fridays with a new episode last week and got on the higher side of expected numbers, with 4.8-ish million and a 1.9 in adults. Supernatural’s “Appointment in Samarra” repeat did okay, starting with 1.36 million and a 0.6 and ending the hour with 1.27 million and a 0.5. So, it didn’t lose much against Fringe, even in repeats, and will likely do okay when it comes back this Friday. Though Fringe fans (those who aren’t Supernatural fans, too) gloated over the numbers, the real test will come in the coming month or so, as the show goes up against new episodes of CSI: New York and Supernatural.

We’ll be back next week with more spoilers. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of V and Supernatural.

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