TV Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/09/11

This entry is part 19 of 26 in the series Spoilers 2011: Part 2

This week, we have spoilers for Once Upon a Time and Supernatural:

Once Upon a Time (Sunday nights, 8pm, ABC)
By Heather S. Vina

The Spoilers Guide site has some spoilers up for the next three episodes. I have no idea of the reliablity of this site, as I’ve never heard of them before. Episode 6, “The Shepherd”, will have David (Prince Charming) having to choose between his “wife” and Mary, whom he’s “fallen deeply in love with.” And episode 7, “The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter”, will have the death of a character and one of the town members starting to remember their past life.

The Washington Post has a joint interview with Ginnifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas. It mostly focuses on Prince Charming and Snow White’s first meeting, but it does also deal with some of the real-world issues facing their alter egos, David and Mary Margaret. Josh says that David will look upon Regina as an ally and Ginnifer foresees the amnesia causing a lot of obstacles for the true love duo. But both believe that the show will prove that “true love trumps all” by eventually getting David/Charming and Mary Margaret/Snow White back together.

Kristin at E! Online has a couple of spoilers up in her weekly column. She talks about having heard of a shocking death coming up on the show, and that Belle from “Beauty and the Beast” will be making an appearance soon – though she has yet to be cast. According to Kristin, we will learn a lot about Rumpelstiltskin in that episode and Belle’s would-be bully suitor Gaston will be making an appearance. No word on whether or not the Beast, himself, will.

As for the death, I can’t really imagine it being any of the lead characters. No way would the show cut down any of the Charming/White family. Snow White and Prince Charming are the end-goal couple, the one that everyone longs to have a happy ending and the ones whose happiness the Queen specifically went after (Everyone else was just icing on the cake for her). Emma is the heroine, destined to end it all. And besides being a child on a family-friendly show (and no way would they off a child), Henry is the driving force and heart of the show, and the movement to end the curse.

And considering there’s still a lot to milk out of the mystery of Gold/Rumpelstiltskin’s duplicity, and the Queen is the villain who caused all of this, I can’t see either of them being ended any time soon.

I could see it being the Sheriff, or any number of peripheral characters like Ruby, Granny, Jiminy, or even Gepetto or Grumpy.  I just can’t see it being any of the leads right now.

ABC released a press release for episode 1.05:


“‘That Still Small Voice’ – As Sheriff Graham deputizes Emma, the ground shakes and a giant sinkhole mysteriously appears at the edge of town. But a curious Henry’s life is placed in danger when he decides to explore the innards of the sinkhole to see if its contents can link the inhabitants of Storybrooke to the fairytale world. Meanwhile, back in the fairytale world, Jiminy Cricket yearns to leave the family business and transform into the person he wants to be, on ‘Once Upon a Time’, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 27 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.”

Hmmm…I find it very interesting that the Sheriff is making Emma a deputy.  Good way to give her a way/reason to stay in town (and very reminiscent of how Syfy’s Haven kept their heroine in town, as well), and an interesting way for the Sheriff to stand up to Regina, since it stands to reason that Regina won’t be happy about this turn of events!

And finally, the ratings for this week – the show’s third episode – held up really well. They only slipped to a 3.8 (4.0, 3.9) in the all-important demos, and an 11.45 million (12.93, 11.74) in total viewers.  These are minor losses for a new show in its first few weeks and, as TV By The Numbers reports, “the performance the first three weeks has to be very encouraging for ABC.”

And, in fact, ABC is so pleased with the show that last week, they picked it up for a full season!

Late Update: Here are the clips for this coming week’s episode!  Clip 1, Clip 2 , Clip 3, Clip 4 , Clip 5 , Clip 6.

And TV Guide has announced that Emilie de Ravin (Lost, Roswell) has been cast as Belle!

Supernatural (Friday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

So far, we’ve gotten a CW promo, a Canadian promo and two clips (one quite short) for this Friday’s episode, which sounds like crackfic. The groom, of course, is Sam. Because, apparently, this season hasn’t already had Sam act fruit-loopy enough. Becky Rosen (Sam’s No. 1 Fan from season five) has been confirmed as the intended bride.

We also got an episode title for 7.15 (“Repo Man”. And yes, that reminds me of the 80s flick not the opera. Sue me if that dates me) and a short clip of a birthday celebration the crew arranged for a young guest star on the set for 7.11. This, of course, means that’s the episode they’re currently filming and also that the scene in question appears to be with just her character and Dean (because Jensen Ackles is present, but Jared Padalecki doesn’t appear to be). There are also two more photos from this episode out, one of the guest star with Ackles and one of her with Padalecki.

We also have official photos from 7.09 (The Jersey Devil one). Dean. With guns. In the woods. And a truly infamous folklore creature. Sign me up.

Nicholas Lea has confirmed on his homepage vague rumours from the past week or so that he was in town to film an episode. He will be playing a character named “Eliot” and will appear in 7.12. Hmm, could that be…Eliot Ness? He also confirmed that he would appear in Once Upon a Time as the father of Hansel and Gretel. I was never a fan of Krycek on The X-Files (too much of a weasel too many times), but I do like Lea, who is a very reliable and solid genre actor, and not exactly harmful to the eyesight.

Remember the rumours floating about the past few days about their being a three-part episode coming up? Well, it’s been confirmed by one of the guest stars in said three-parter, Meghan Ory. Does that name sound familiar? No? Well, remember Alec’s first love from Dark Angel episode “The Berrisford Agenda”? That actress. She also currently plays Ruby/Red Riding Hood on Once Upon a Time.

At the mid-Ohio Comic-Con, James Marsters speculated about his character coming back, possibly as a replacement for Castiel. Certain parts of the fandom had yet another meltdown.

The show has been nominated for the People’s Choice Awards in the categories: Favorite Network TV Drama and Favorite Sci-Fi/Fantasy Show. You can vote here through December 6, as many times as you like. Results will be announced on January 11 during the Awards ceremony on CBS.

Jim Michaels tweeted a set pic of Stunt Coordinator Lou Bollo and  two of the Impala.

Finally, in the wake of the last game of the World Series and Grimm‘s series premiere the previous week, Supernatural went back up to a 0.8/2 and 1.84 million last Friday for “The Mentalists”. It appears that little, if any, audience is abandoning Supernatural for Grimm. They might be watching both on the DVR that same night, but they’re not watching the new show instead of the old. And Supernatural continues to rate highly on the DVR+7 charts. Not that this will affect the show’s renewal prospects one way or the other, but the show is doing okay in the demos that do, so it’s a nice plus.

We’ll be back next week with more spoilers. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, and Supernatural.


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7 Comments on “TV Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/09/11”

  1. Ginger

    Thanks, again, Paula. I read your spoiler round-ups and yet, I have no idea where this season is going. Two comedies coming up, an Eliot Ness episode, a three-parter down the road.

    The only reason I have some interest in the wedding episode is because Dabb & Loflin usually write Dean really well. I looked up the episodes they have written and, except for a couple that I really did not care for, they have a pretty good track record.

    4.06 Yellow Fever (OK, I suppose. I liked drunk Dean, but ‘meh)
    4.13 After School Special (Big dud – bad Dean casting)
    4.19 Jump The Shark (Good Dean — Hate anything with Adam)
    5.06 I Believe The Children Are Our Future (Good Dean
    5.11 Sam, Interrupted (I really liked this one)
    5.16 Dark Side Of The Moon (Remains high on my favorites list)
    5.19 Hammer Of The Gods (I was okay with this one)
    6.04 Weekend At Bobby’s (Good one)
    6.07 Family Matters (Not bad)
    6.13 Unforgiven (Hated this one)
    6.18 Frontierland (Not bad)
    7.03 The Girl Next Door (Loved how Dean killed Amy)

    I just want the show to get on with the Levi story. And, for the record, I loved The Berrisford Agenda and I don’t care one way or the other for D. J. Qualls or Nick Lea. Never seen them in anything, so I don’t know them or their work.

  2. shamangrrl

    Once Upon A Time:
    Wow, a major character death – with the title of the episode, I have a suspicion it might involve the Sheriff. We’ll see! I am really enjoying this show. Thanks so much for the spoilers!

    I’ve got to say, I really hope that they don’t bring either of the witches back, unless it’s to gank them. I like James Marsters, just as I like Crowley, but I don’t like the guys working with the enemy. Hopefully the three-parter will actually deal with the main plot and push that forward. The show seems to be spinning it’s wheels.

  3. Cassioe

    Thanks for the round up Paula. I really miss Baby and hope she returns soon.

    Didn’t know about the three-parter. I’m guessing that’s the last three episodes of the season as the last two were already listed as a two-parter.

    As for James Masters coming back, I liked his character, but don’t see the need for him to replace Cas. Why irk more fans? The series would really benefit from working WITH the fans as opposed to AGAINST them. It would certainly improve the ratings, which are still very low.

  4. Arafel

    Well, not really looking forward to Becky…again… 🙁
    And whatever happened to Gamble’s alleged aversion to redundancy as a reason for getting rid of Castiel, especially in light of what Marsters said? And what’s with all the stunt-casting? That has to cost some $, too… And Misha Collins has very recently(Asylum Con, I believe?) said that he hasn’t even been asked to come back yet. I’m not even a huge fan of MC, but I DID like the Dean and Cas dynamic very much, and would have liked to have kept it around even if they wanted to scale it down some-so yeah, I could very easily see why there might be a meltdown in that fandom…*is confused, too*…
    Thanks for the update, Paula.

  5. Heather S Vina

    Thanks for the spoiler round up, Paula!

    I was so psyched when I saw the show go up in the Finals for this past week’s episode, LOL! I’m really rooting for a season 8.

    Alas, none of the spoilers are thrilling me that much for the upcoming episodes. However, I do get more Dean/Jensen, so that always is something to look forward to!

    @shamangrrl: I do tend to think it’s the Sheriff who dies, but I just read that he and Emma are going to kiss and possibly hook up for a while, so I don’t know.

    A friend of mine told me that Jamie Dorman is in London right now, while the show is still filming. But then you have Meghan Ory cast in a 3 part arc on Supernatural, so it could be Ruby too.

    I just don’t know at this point. I do think with 98% certainty that it won’t be any of the members of the Charming/White family getting killed off, and since those are my favorite characters, I’m good, LOL!

  6. Laurie

    I read spoilers that episode 10 “Death’s Door” is going to be about Bobby, and that Jensen and Jared worked few days on that one. It was written by Sera Gamnble and I really wonder about her ability to write while being a showrunner. I’ve enjoyed alot of her scripts in the past, but a Bobby centric before hiatus?

    I wonder if she is getting her ideas from the lines Robbie Thompson wrote in Slash Fiction about Bobby’s father and background, and is feeding off that. I’m enjoying some of the season, but I’m not too happy about all the filler and non-Leviathan themes. Is she going to wait again until the last 2 episodes to deal with anything major? It’s very frustrating, especially because I like this season’s theme.

  7. Emmy

    I’m not really sure that article is right about the “3 part episode”, they don’t have a direct quote from her, it’s possible they misunderstood. Zap2It says she’s only going to be in one episode.

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