TV Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 10/19/10

This week, we have spoilers from V and Supernatural:

(Tuesday nights, 10pm, ABC)

By Silvia Moreno-Garcia

Season two of V will premiere January 2, 2011. Um…insanity? What’s up with that?

There’s a detailed description of the clips shown at New York Comic Con over at thevfiles and io9 interviewed cast members. Reveals: Lisa doesn’t know her grandmother is alive and Jane Badler is hired for the entire season, meaning you can expect her character to be a big player.

In another interview, Jane Badler reveals a little secret from the old series: the heels of Jane and June Chadwick’s boots would often get stuck in the grates of the mothership.

Elsewhere, someone didn’t get the memo that indicated Elizabeth Mitchell is probably going to have a romance with the character of Father Jack. John W. Kennedy urges Catholics to watch V: “Not since M*A*S*H‘s Father Mulcahy has a priest been portrayed in such a positive way on television,” he says. Well, let’s not forget that the older priest played by Scott Hylands is probably a V or a traitor.

Meanwhile, talking about priests, check out this scene from one of the original miniseries when Diana expresses her thoughts on the Bible. Ouch.

It was revealed in the original series that the aliens used to have some sort of religion, which was outlawed. Will that be the case again?

The Vampire Diaries (Thursday nights, 8pm, CW)
By Carla Lee

No Vampire Diaries spoilers column this week.

Supernatural (Friday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

We had an IFP interview on Friday with Cindy Sampson (Lisa Braeden) in which she told us that Lisa would be in 6.05 and 6.06 and would not end up vamped in 6.05. She also said she had originally auditioned for the role of Bela, but lost out to Lauren Cohan, who will now be on The Vampire Diaries.

The promo for 6.05 showed Dean, vamped out and threatening Lisa in Phantom of the Opera fashion. Photos for 6.05 and 6.06 have come out, as well as two clips. There’s also a new general location report from Japan about the film industry in Vancouver with major spoilers for the MOTW in 6.06 (including the kill) where we see Sam kill the MOTW and Dean attack Sam with a knife. The Supernatural stuff starts at 3:10, the spoilery stuff at 3:34 (What’s with all the hacked-up dead bodies?).

The photos for 6.05 show Dean hunting a trio of vicious-looking female vampires and covered with blood. In the first clip, Sam and Dean are in a victim’s bedroom looking for clues and discover her fixation on Twilight-style vamps. Dean’s comment on male vampires watching female humans sleep in these stories being “rape-y” is amusing and dead-on. In the second clip, they’re scoping out a night club and when they split up to follow two prospects, Sam is attacked by a male vampire, whom he beheads at the end of the clip.

In the photos for 6.06, a very angry and disturbed-looking Dean threatens Sam with a large (autopsy?) knife in a room with a floor-to-ceiling glass window to the outside and glass jars full of body organs. The article claims that not only is Dean forced by the truth spell of the goddess Veritas to tell the truth, but also appears to have the ability to force those around him to tell the truth, too. I’m beginning to wonder if the Crazy Dean trope is going somewhere plotwise as well as just characterwise.

Various interviews and behind-the-scenes photos have come out about 6.04, as well as the Space promo for the episode and a sneak peek. Somebody did a Comic-Con-era article about Ackles’ directing debut with new info about the project. Ausiello also gave everyone a heads-up that Ackles’ father, Alan, would have a cameo as a news announcer. Ratings for the episode were surprisingly good, with overnight ratings of 2.8 million going up to 2.844 million in the finals and the show getting a 1.5 overall with a 1.3 in the all-important-to-the-CW Women 18-34 group. Unsurprisingly, reports that Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles had signed on for a seventh season cropped up again. I doubt the CW will be jettisoning Supernatural any time soon if the show keeps kicking FOX’s butt.

The blurb for 6.07 (“Family Matters”) is out: “DOES SAMUEL HAVE A SECRET? – Dean (Jensen Ackles) becomes suspicious of Samuel’s (guest star Mitch Pileggi) motives, but Sam isn’t sold on the idea that their grandfather is doing anything wrong. The brothers go along on a hunt with Samuel and the other Campbells, but things go terribly awry. Guy Bee directed the episode written by Andrew Dabb & Daniel Loflin (#607).” Dean’s suspicious and Sam doesn’t believe him? Again? Ya don’t say (The gif responses to this blurb on ONTD are hilarious, if anyone’s curious). Though I suppose, with how crazy Dean apparently acts the previous two episodes, one might see why Sam is a little skeptical about Dean’s spidey sense (even if it is a hard and fast rule of the SPNverse that Metallicar is awesome, demons are untrustworthy, angels are definitely stupid, and Dean’s spidey sense, once activated, is never wrong. Even when he’s bonkers). Let’s sincerely hope this episode bags more than its quota of any surviving Campbell cousins.

In a Q&A from Chicago Con, Jared Padalecki talked about 6.12. He said that, while he didn’t know yet how Sam got out of Hell, 6.12 would have flashbacks involving the Year That Wasn’t during the time jump, in which we would see Sam watching Dean from a distance and avoiding being discovered (See? He was stalking Dean). When asked if the episode would involve how Sam met the Campbells, he said yes, but that it would be more about Sam watching Dean. I am not exactly jumping for joy, considering that the last time the show promised us a pony – I mean, a Sam-flashback episode – we got the horrifically-awful Ruby-Sue Worshipfest that was “I Know What You Did Last Summer”. Here’s hoping this will be…um…better than that. Granted, the bar’s not set very high.

Padalecki also said we’d see Sam shirtless (and not paying for it) “before Christmas”, which means probably 6.10 or earlier.

Apparently, he and his wife also went on their honeymoon to Machu Picchu. I am jealous. I’ve always wanted to go to Machu Picchu.

The list of upcoming episode airdates is out and, aside from a repeat on Black Friday (for really obvious reasons), we’re getting first-run episodes at least through December 3 (6.10). Some unofficial set photos (for either 6.09 or 6.10) have also come out.

The title of 6.11 is out: “Appointment in Samarra”. This derives from a story by W. Somerset Maugham which is based on an old Jewish Babylonian tale. There’s also a novel by John O’Hara of the same name. The story is about the inevitability of Death (who is female in Maugham’s version), how trying to avoid the appointed time of your Death will only make your fate more certain. Boris Karloff gave an amazing and chilling recitation of Maugham’s version very late in his career in a brilliant (but obscure) thriller, Targets. If you ever get a chance to see this film, grab it. It’s worth it.

Late edit: Ausiello reported today that Robert Englund will be appearing in a December 10 episode (which apparently means we will get episodes at least through then and also through 6.11. Just hope that won’t mean a whopping hiatus or two or three in the spring):

“‘Hunters often find themselves in situations where they need medical attention but can’t exactly stroll into an ER,’ explains exec producer Sera Gamble. ‘Robert plays an unlicensed doc who makes his living stitching folks up on the down low. One of our guys goes to him with a life-or-death problem.'”

Hmm. Wonder which brother will need his attentions? And where is the other one? And with Englund being such a horror god, could we possibly get Jeffrey Combs or Bruce Campbell, too?

Finally, I talked last week about a Q&A controversy in which Jensen Ackles allegedly said that Sam had lost his soul. After being given a chance to check out the passage in question, all I can say is: Well…um…sort of. First of all, it was in the context of a question about how he was fielding playing Dean in season six. So, he started off saying, “This year, that [playing Dean?] is played off of Sam. To have that taken away and then still work with that character…it’s odd. It’s crippling.” He then went on to talk about the controversy over whether or not he’d said he was “upset with my job” a few weeks back. He said he wasn’t: “There were a few things in there that yeah, I did say, but they were – if you would have seen my face or seen the tone in which I was saying it, it probably would have come across a whole lot differently than it did when I read that. So, I just want to assure everyone that I am not upset with my job. I’m very happy. The show’s going fine. Sarah’s doing a great job.” He also talked about how Sera Gamble called him up, worried by the rumours, and he reassured her that he had been misconstrued, that he was not unhappy with her or the writing for Dean.

With that cleared up, he moved on to what he had actually meant: “I had talked to her a few weeks before about that situation, just going like, ‘This is kind of really odd and I’m not quite sure how I’m doing. I’m really having to think hard about how to play Dean because Dean doesn’t have that chemistry that he’s kind of grown accustomed to having. Or I haven’t – Jensen hasn’t had it.’ So, she knew that I was having some issues, but that’s just ‘job’. You know – ‘I’m having a little difficulty figuring this out, but I’m working around it.’ So, she thought that I was really upset. ‘No, no. I’m not upset!’ I’m like, ‘It’s just more challenging. It’s just a different dynamic.’ So, I of course am pleading with her, ‘Please give Sam his soul back. This isn’t working. I’m having to work harder now. This is [supposed to be] like the gravy train season.’ So, we’re still working at that. But yes, to answer your question, it has been a bit of a hurdle this season.”

Okay, so, speculation. First, do I really think Jensen Ackles blurted out a huge spoiler about Sam while trying to clear up a previous controversy about Dean? Eh…it’s possible and I’ll admit the passage is ambiguous, but I’m leaning toward “no”. First, look at the context: the line is in the middle of his discussion of his unease about adjusting to a new character dynamic for Dean. Ackles is essentially saying that this is a new direction for the character and it’s harder work than before. Really, if he’d said “mojo” instead of “soul”, this wank wouldn’t even be occurring (Well…okay, it probably still would, but that’s because this fandom is wanky). And that could very easily be what he meant, since he’s talking about something we’ve already seen (and with which the above spoilers are saturated), that this season is pretty Deancentric so far. He seems to be saying that Dean is in a lot of new situations that require new responses from him where he can’t bounce off Padalecki/Sam the way he did in previous seasons because Sam is holding things back from Dean and is cold and off-putting (something he and Padalecki have talked about in the past for episodes when the brothers were at each others’ throats). Which means a whole lot more work for Jensen Ackles.

Second, Jared Padalecki said around the same time that he didn’t know yet how Sam got out of Hell, etc. Granted, Padalecki can be very cagey about spoilers, but even though Ackles has often talked about Sam’s character in the past, it seems a little odd that he’d say something like that when Padalecki didn’t. Especially when Padalecki was so forthcoming about the whole Douchey Sam storyline at Comic-Con.

So, what we’ve really got is an ambiguous word in the middle of a line that only seems unambiguous if you take the sentence out of context, with no confirmation from the guy who’s actually playing the character, let alone any of the writers. That’s just not enough for me to hang my hat on (or hang Ackles for by blowing it out of proportion with a lot of wank), especially since I don’t even like the idea. Maybe that’s what will turn out to be the “secret” down the road, but I don’t think it necessarily means Ackles knows that secret already, let alone blurted it out at this Q&A.

Anyway, that’s my two cents for what it’s worth. Naturally, I don’t expect anybody to listen to me on the subject, so carry on, all.

More spoilers next week. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of V, The Vampire Diaries and Supernatural.

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