TV Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 04/25/12

This entry is part 17 of 26 in the series Spoilers 2012: Part 1

This week, we have spoilers for Once Upon a Time and Supernatural:

Once Upon a Time (Sunday nights, 8pm, ABC)
By Heather S. Vina

A lot of interviews came out, talking about who August is (All spoilers point to Pinocchio, especially since Baelfire is out) and the finale. You can find the Hollywood Reporter interview with Jane Espenson here. The TV Guide one is here. the E! one here, and Jane Espenson teases about the finale in EW’s spoiler room here.

Not really a lot of spoilers, per se, just a lot of “OMG, this is HUGE” talk from Jane.

Spoiler TV has HQ photos up for the episode “An Apple Red As Blood” here.

E! Online has a spoiler up about a death occurring in the last 3 episodes of the season. I have no idea who that one is!

Nelsonhere: Please, give me some good scoop on Once Upon a Time! Will we see Belle again?
“Yes, you will. And here’s even better scoop: Someone completely majorly shocking will die in the last three episodes of the season. It’s the kind of death you can’t imagine could possibly stick!”

They also have a spoiler up regarding the synopsis line talking about Henry begging Emma not to leave town:

Amy: Got any more Once Upon a Time scoop?
“We see a lot of magic on Once but the most powerful is true love. Consulting producer Jane Espenson explains that the one person that Emma truly loves is Henry, so why in an upcoming episode might she be leaving Storybrooke and Henry behind? ‘It would take a lot to make her do that,’ Espenson explains. ‘The important thing to her in this town is Henry. If Emma decided to do anything drastic then it would be because she felt it was in Henry’s best interests.’”

Honestly, I think if Emma considered seriously leaving town and leaving Henry behind, that would kill the character for me. I just don’t buy that she would seriously leave Henry, not now, not knowing what she knows about Regina. Maybe if it’s a ploy or part of a larger scheme, I could see it, but the one thing that they have left with Emma is her love for Henry. They’ve taken away her ability to tell when someone is lying; they’ve neutered her when she goes up against Regina so Regina will always win. If they have her seriously think about leaving Henry in Regina’s hands, that’s too much. Hopefully, they won’t do that!

The promo for the next episode, “The Stranger”, is up on Youtube here.

And finally, ratings were up this week. The demos were 3.0 (up from 2.8/8 for the last new episode) and 9.080 million viewers (previous week was 8.36). Those were nice jumps, considering the show has been hovering at the 2.8/.9 mark for the past few new episodes!

Supernatural (Friday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

There was a producer’s preview up for 7.19 last week (The one for 7.20 will probably be up later today). In addition, we saw a few interviews with Jim Beaver. Beaver was cagey, saying he though Bobby would be in the show through the end of the season (already confirmed by set photos) and possibly into season eight. Keep in mind that the storyline for season eight has not even been broken, yet, let alone blocked out (because there has been on official confirmation that the show will get a season eight), and that Beaver is very unlikely to spoil how Ghost!Bobby ends up at the end of the season. So, take it with a hunk of rock salt.

Beaver also essentially confirms that Ghost!Bobby will turn pretty rabid at some point and that his focus will be very self-centred rather than altruistically inclined toward the brothers. As you all know, I am not at all thrilled by the way they’ve brought Bobby back and I don’t like Ghost!Bobby at all. The last listed interview sums up why – the idea of trying to handwave plotholes as just ghost powers being “inconsistent” and “unreliable” is stupid. Nothing before on the show (and we have seen the ghost’s point of view a few times, now) has ever indicated that ghost powers are either inconsistent or unreliable once the spirit learns them. Or even that hard to gain. They’re just difficult to master without going eventually bonkers.

Also, if they killed off Castiel and Bobby because they were dei ex machina, why do we now have Ghost!Bobby the super-duper deus ex machina?! I mean, can’t a character be effective without being supersomething? This makes me think more and more that it is a very good thing we’re getting a new showrunner.

The official synopsis for 7.22 is now up:

“SAM AND DEAN SEEK OUT AN ALPHA – In order to defeat Dick Roman (guest star James Patrick Stuart) and the Leviathans, Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) must locate three key items. Castiel (Misha Collins) helps with one but for the last objects, the Winchesters must face two of their strongest opponents – an Alpha (guest star Rick Worthy) and Crowley (guest star Mark Sheppard). Meanwhile, Bobby (guest star Jim Beaver) tries out a new ghost trick that ends up being very dangerous. Guy Bee directed the episode written by Andrew Dabb & Daniel Loflin (#721).”

Not sure how to take this one, since the main word that comes to mind is “overcrowded”. “Two Minutes to Midnight” was this crowded and it ended up being horrendously rushed. Which is too bad because Bee is generally a good director and I like Rick Worthy. I just wish his sinister Alpha weren’t crammed into an episode with Crowley, Ghost!Bobby and Dick. Also, the “three key items” thing sounds like the kind of Dungeons&Dragons plotting that we got in Worthy’s last appearance, “Family Matters”. Dabb and Loflin, well…they’re variable. They’ve done some good stuff and they’ve done some pretty bad stuff. Hard to say if they’ll rise to the challenge of a mytharc-heavy penultimate episode.

As for what new trick Ghost!Bobby will try, I’m guessing he’ll try to possess one of the brothers, probably Dean. Do I think he will be able to possess Dean? I sure hope not, but I wouldn’t put it past this show to try it and take away yet one more thing that has been unique to Dean.

Not feelin’ Crowley one way or the other. If he’s a craven weasel like this season and season five, great. If he’s King Toad like last season, bleah, no. He works best when he’s squirming with someone’s foot on his neck.

I’ve seen people suggest that blood will be the key (the title and all). It could be or it could be something really random. At this point, ripping off Demon Knight would be a step up for the writers.

Note that there is no mention of the archangels in this one, even though Kevin the Prophet is supposed to be in the last three episodes. No mention of any personal arcs for Sam and Dean, either. Sam doesn’t surprise me. Jared Padalecki really had his hands full during the filming of 7.21 and 7.22. Dean, well…they’ve hidden things before about him. Let’s hope they’re hiding things now, because if the last four episodes become All About Ghost!Bobby, it could be a mighty dull end of the season.

The CW promo for 7.20 is up, as is a clip and an uncharacteristically uninformative Canadian promo. The CW promo is very Felicia Day-centric and pretty stupid. Don’t get me wrong. I liked the show, Chuck. But that spy spoof tone does not fit Supernatural. I’m also not wowed by how the brothers barely show up or that what the promo seems determined to demonstrate is that Day’s character, Charlie, is: 1. a lesbian and 2. going to have to try to seduce Dick Roman at some point. Who cares about her sexual orientation, especially since Dick is a Leviathan and hardly interested in human sex? Was the fact that Guy in “Season Seven, Time for a Wedding!” was pretty obviously gay so important that it had to be underlined in the promo? No. And it wasn’t. So, why, for the second episode in a row, is the show so obsessed with having the big thing we know about a female recurring character, above all else, be related to her sexuality? That bothers me. A lot. Sure, it’s nice to have GLBT characters on the show, but we women are more than who we bang or like to bang.

The clip is more promising. Sure, it’s cringy humour of the type they overloaded on in “The French Mistake”, but Dean gets some funny lines and Day fields it well. Fingers crossed the episode is more like the clip than the promos.

Airport pics of Misha Collins and James Patrick Stuart leaving Vancouver after the end of filming 7.23 pretty much confirmed that Castiel and Dick are both in the season finale – in case anyone was truly in doubt. Still no word on the season finale synopsis and it’s not confirmed who is the writer of it.

Filming for season seven wrapped on the 20th.

Finally, ratings for “Of Grave Importance”, the first new episode in a few weeks, were a solid 0.7/2 and 1.570 million. To put that in perspective – the show was second to The Vampire Diaries (which barely topped a 1.0 and two million) on the network in both the demo and audience.

We’ll be back next week with more spoilers. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, Grimm, and Supernatural.

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