TV Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 03/14/12

This week, we have spoilers for Once Upon a Time, Doctor Who and Supernatural:

Once Upon a Time (Sunday nights, 8pm, ABC)
By Heather S. Vina

ABC has issued the press release for the episode “The Stable Boy”, to air April 1. They also announced that the finale would air on May 13:


“Barbara Hershey Guest Stars as Fairytale Land Regina’s Mother, Cora.

“Alan Dale (Lost) Guest Stars as District Attorney Albert Spencer/King George.

“Richard Schiff (The West Wing) Guest Stars as King Leopold.

“‘The Stable Boy’ – Emma continues her exhaustive search for evidence that will prove Mary Margaret’s innocence in the murder of David’s wife, Kathryn. Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was and before evil blackened her soul, Regina must choose between betraying her mother, Cora (Barbara Hershey), and marrying for true love, or betrothing royalty and living a regal – but loveless – life; and the event that caused the Evil Queen to loathe Snow White is revealed, on Once Upon a Time, SUNDAY, APRIL 1 (8:00-9:01 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

Once Upon a Time stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Robert Carlyle as Rumpelstiltskin/Mr. Gold, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Eion Bailey as August, Jared Gilmore as Henry Mills, and Raphael Sbarge as Jiminy Cricket/Archie Hopper.

“Guest starring are Anastasia Griffith as Kathryn/Abigail, Meghan Ory as Ruby/Red, Tony Perez as Valet/Father, Giancarlo Esposito as Sidney/The Mirror, Alan Dale as Albert Spencer/King George, Barbara Hershey as Cora, Noah Bean as Daniel/Stable Boy, Richard Schiff as King Leopold, and Bailee Madison as young Snow White.

“‘The Stable Boy’ was written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz and directed by Dean White.”

Other than that, not a whole lot in the way of spoilers this week. Most were just regurgitated stuff from last week’s Paley Interviews, which I didn’t bother with. But TVLine did post the video of the Paley event on their site, as well as a breakdown of time/events.

Spoiler TV is reporting that episode 20 will be called “The Stranger”. Hmmm, I wonder whom that episode could be about!

Kristin at E!Online reported on Belle and Rump’s possible real life reunion:

Kit4atw: Any news on Belle and Rumple on OUAT?
“When we caught up with executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis, our number one question was whether Mr. Gold (Robert Carlyle) will come face-to-face with his Belle (Emilie de Ravin), who is currently in a padded cell, by season’s end? ‘All I can say is Emilie is coming back onto the show,’ Horowitz teases. ‘We’re very excited to have her back.’ Kitsis ominously adds, ‘And God help whoever did that to her!'”

TV Guide’s Mega Buzz had some new info on Prince Charming:

“What’s coming up on Once Upon a Time? – Chris
NATALIE: Mary Margaret won’t be the only one behind bars. Lest we forget, Prince Charming ran away from the kingdom, and even though he helped Abigail reunite with her golden lover, King George won’t be so forgiving. ‘King George takes him, so he’s locked away in fairytale land,’ Josh Dallas teases. ‘He’s going to have to do some fighting to get out.'”

And for the ratings, it seems that the show was hit hard, either by the Daylight Savings time change or by viewers starting to tune out, because the show fell to a 2.9/8 in the demo and 9.29 million viewers. That’s a series low, and down from last week’s 3.4/9 in the demos and 10.67 million viewers. Ouch.

Doctor Who (Saturday nights, 9pm, BBC America)
By Heather S. Vina

Farscape and Stargate SG1‘s Ben Browder is making a guest appearance on Doctor Who! Blastr is reporting that, in this month’s Doctor Who Magazine (which is only out in the UK), they are reporting that he will appear in the third episode of Doctor Who‘s seventh season: “The episode, written by Being Human creator and frequent Who contributor Toby Whithouse (“School Reunion”, “The Vampires of Venice”, “The God Complex”), will be set in the Wild Wild West, with filming to actually take place in Madrid, Spain.”

And the Doctor Who TV site has more details on this episode: “The latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine confirms the earlier rumors that Spain will be masquerading for America’s Wild West in the third episode, written by Toby Whithouse.”

They are also revealing who the monster is for the episode: a “half-human, half-robot Terminator-style beast.”

Also from the magazine, “Adrian Scarborough (Kahler-Jex), Dominic Kemp (Kahler-Mas) and Rob Cavazos (Walter) will appear in episode 3. Episode 2, the first to be shot, is written by Chris Chibnall. Mark Williams (Brian Williams), Rupert Graves and David Bradley all guest star in episode 2, and both episodes in the second block will be written by Steven Moffat.”

And Spoiler TV has up some onset pictures recently taken of the filming in Spain here and here. The Doctor’s on a horse!

The Blastr site also has some pictures up for the on location filming! It looks like there’s a cyborg cowboy!

The Blastr site is also bringing up that old rumour about Sophia Myles (Madame Pompadour in the episode, “The Girl In The Fireplace”) being cast as the next Companion. They list out some compelling evidence leaning towards it being true, but on the other hand, that evidence can also be read other ways. I like the actress fine, but I was kind of hoping for someone more along the lines of Donna Noble: someone a tad bit older, more settled, and less inclined to feel romantically for the Doctor. But we’ll see!

Supernatural (Friday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

Quite a bit of audiovisual spoilage this week, though a lot of it only confirmed what we’ve already heard. We got a new Canadian promo for 7.16 (which implies the episode will be comedic, and indicates the guy in the red jacket in the official photos is the bad guy and/or gets into a fight with Dean), as well as a sneak peak (In which Sam talks about his Fauxifer problem, Dean can’t get Frank on the phone, and I start to wonder if Frank is even real or if Dean is talking to dead air these days).

We also got the official photos for 7.17 (and a short interview with Misha Collins). It looks as though they were holding back until near the end of Hellatus to issue stuff because the previous few weeks have been pretty dead. There was also a spoilery article with some quotes from older interviews, but the only new thing in it, aside from the 7.16 official photos from last week, was discussion of Sam wielding a sword. I’m also not wild about the whole “the last case before Sam’s breakdown” angle of the article, when I would rather hear details about the episode itself, which sounds Deancentric. Especially since Sam’s breakdown in 7.17 is already getting a ton of coverage and 7.16 has been relatively neglected. I’m funny that way.

You can find more 7.16 photos here (The curse boxes from John’s locker are back – wheeee for continuityyyy!).

The official description of 7.18 (which appeared in the comments last week) is also out:

“GARTH IS BACK TO HELP THE WINCHESTERS – Dean (Jensen Ackles) is surprised when he gets a call from Garth (guest star DJ Qualls) asking for the brothers’ help on a case. Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean discover they are battling a Shōjō, a Japanese creature sent to seek revenge on enemies. The worst part about fighting a Shōjō? You can only see it when you’re drunk. Phil Sgriccia directed the episode written by Adam Glass (#718).”

Set photos of Sam and Dean getting on a Greyhound bus, with Dean looking pretty rough, are up. Sam, meanwhile, looks pretty good, so I guess he’s really over his breakdown after 7.17. The photos appear to be from 7.20.

The last two episode titles for the season being reported are “There Will Be Blood” (7.22) and “Get Dick” (7.23), though there’s some controversy over whether the latter title is real. Meanwhile, Guy Norman Bee finally has read the script for 7.22, but won’t say anything about it.

Late edit: There’s a brand new interview with Misha Collins (with nice photo of Collins in a suit and bright-red tie) in the print version of TV Guide. It has similarities to the new Zap2it interview, but is a different one. Since I’m not seeing it anywhere online, I’ll include the transcript here:

Magic Castiel

“After six months’ absence, Misha Collins returns to Supernatural for the first of at least three appearances as fan fave Castiel, the angel-turned-vengeful god-turned-pond scum (courtesy of the Leviathans, the power-hungry creatures he released from Purgatory).  Collins has kept busy with his Web series Divine, a Ringer guest spot and breaking a Guiness record for biggest scavenger hunt, but, he says, ‘It’s great being back on Supernatural.’ Ileane Rudolph

The last time we saw Castiel, he was a mass of black goo. But when we see him again, he looks like the old Cas. What happens?

“You’re trying to get me to tell secrets! Castiel does return – not as a Leviathan host or covered in black goo. But, yes, there is change within him.

Are you an ally of Dean and Sam again?

“Cas does not come back as a foe of the Winchesters. He’s going through yet another transformation and another kind of struggle and journey. Once again, he’ll be put through the wringer.

You guest starred on Ringer recently as a mere mortal. Was it fun to play human for a change?

“It’s nice to smile and be emotive and not be wooden from time to time.

Could you be back next season if Supernatural returns?

“There’s no reason why it couldn’t happen. After all, Castiel has been resurrected from total oblivion about four times. Death on Supernatural is never insurmountable!”

The episode blurb for 3/23 is: “Lucifer drives Sam mad and he ends up in a mental hospital.” The one for 3/30 is: “Dean and Sam help Garth battle a Shojo.”

Finally, last Thursday’s ratings of the “Repo Man” repeat were a 0.3/1 and 830 thousand in audience and Friday’s repeat of “Death’s Door” got a 0.4/1 and 1.160 million.

So, speculation: I’m about ready for Sam’s breakdown to be over and done with after all the spoilers I’ve heard about it. Movin’ on, show; movin’ on. Despite looking forward to seeing Misha Collins again, I’m also weary of the same old spoilers being thrown at us for his return (Maybe we could hear a bit more about what Meg’s up to in 7.17, hmm?). I am a bit curious, though, to see if Sam has his breakdown (pretty likely) and/or Collins shows up (less likely but possible) by the end of 7.16.

I’m hoping 7.16 won’t be all that comedic. While I don’t mind gallows humour, I’d rather it not be a crackficcy episode, as it sounds like an homage to 80s horror series, Friday the 13th: The Series, about an antiques shop that sells cursed objects, and Friday the 13th: The Series was very dark and grim, with little humour in it. Good series, though, so I’m hopeful about the angle. I’m not so sure about seeing an episode of Dean dancing, but if it’s a case of his being cursed with an increase in some preexisting obsession, that could be quite interesting. Sadly, that does increase the likelihood of it being cracky, as the writers get uneasy about showing Dean’s usual obsessiveness and madness outside of satire and minute-long codas by the car, but maybe they worry it would be too dark if they did? Wish they’d try, though.

Some folks are speculating that “There Will Be Blood” is from an AC/DC song that came out in 2007. Pretty sure the inspiration was actually the Oscar winning film of the same name that came out that year, especially since “Get Dick” is obviously a shout-out to Michael Caine’s classic Brit gangster noir film, Get Carter. Both of these films were extremely dark, and involved insanely and brutally obsessed protagonists. We wouldn’t know anyone in the show like that, would we?

I am dubious about Garth returning. As long as they keep him as comic relief, though, and not have him improbably save the day while the brothers bumble, I can live with it. I don’t mind Qualls. I just think the episode they introduced him in wasn’t very good. As for the Shōjō angle, eh, this sounds like a largely-made-up MOTW and fans are already mocking the show for using a Japanese word that can mean a lot of embarrassing things (particularly when you take into account it’s Adam Glass writing it). I’ve seen some people complain about the drunk angle possibly demeaning Dean’s alcoholism, but if they don’t address Dean’s drinking, after leading into it so heavy-handedly with the MOTW, I’ll be a lot more irritated than if they do.

I mean, come on, the way the synopsis reads, it seems almost a given that the ‘accidental’ way they discover what you need to do to see the Shōjō will be because only Dean can see it, due to being half-blotto most of the time, anyway. I’ve been thinking for a while that Dean’s hunting while drinking is a lot like the way the title character drunkenly fights her way through the City of the Dead in Jessica Amanda Salmonson’s fantasy novel, Tomoe Gozen. Of course, I’m sure Salmonson wouldn’t mind getting paid for some of the ideas people in Hollywood like to rip off from her stuff (Yes, Syfy’s Riverworld, I am talking about you), but there you go.

We’ll be back next week with more spoilers. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, and Supernatural.

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