Interview: Supernatural: Cindy Sampson

Today, we introduce one of the “new” actors of season six, Cindy Sampson, who plays Lisa Braeden. We talked to her on Friday the 13th about Supernatural, her career, dancing, being a Canadian actress, and being a dedicated saltgunner:kids2

[There are spoilers below for Supernatural, as well as the film, The Shrine]

IFP: Are you in Vancouver?

CS: No, I had an eight-day break because they sent me home for a bit, so I’m leaving on Sunday [August 15] to go back. So, I’m in Montreal right now. That’s where I live. I love my Montreal. I moved here a long time ago for a boy and I fell in love with the city.

IFP: Yeah, that’s how that usually happens!

CS: I know! I think that’s why everyone ended up here.

IFP: It’s like: five years later – what’shisname? – but you still love the city.

CS: That’s so true.

IFP: I wanted to say that I’ve been a fan of your character on Supernatural since she first came on.

CS: Oh, that’s so nice to hear, considering I’m assuming I’m going to be the most hated character very soon!

IFP: Have you read any of the reactions online?

CS: You know, it’s funny because I try not to read any of those things – as much as there’s good and bad, always. But my boyfriend does try to peruse about me – more than I do. It doesn’t affect me, though. I remember the hard times that the other female characters had on Supernatural and some of them had it pretty harsh. You know, you’ve just gotta take it all with a grain of salt.

IFP: Well, something I’ve noticed is that initially, people were saying, “Well, we’re glad that was a one-shot” and I was disappointed, because I was thinking, “Well, there’s some real potential for that storyline.” And then, when your character came back in “Dream a Little Dream of Me”, I thought, “Ooh! She came back!”

CS: I know! I felt the same way: “Oooh! I came back!” [laughs]

IFP: And when they said that she/you were going to be in season six, it was funny, because the initial reaction was: “Ohhh! We can’t have Dean be domesticated!”

CS: I know….

IFP: But people have been sort of warming to it.

CS: I think so.

IFP: It’s like, “Hmm, this could actually be a good storyline.”

CS: Well, that’s it. I mean, they’ve done so much with the storylines. I think, as much as people object to him being domesticated and having a settled domestic life, in the big scheme of things, so much has gone on. I think it’s kind of nice to have that other direction going.

And there’s a lot of people that are very open to it, so I’m excited about it and I really don’t want to be the person that makes the show jump the shark. It’s been a lot of pressure, like, “Oh, gosh!” But I just go with it and I’m pretty excited. It’s pretty neat and I think they kind of needed that element and the more I read…I just got episode five and six and I think it fits sort of nicely, in a nice little juxtaposition to what’s going on with Sam and Dean in so far in the episode.

IFP: Yeah…so, not to get too spoilery….

CS: Yeah, I don’t know what I can say without getting in trouble.

IFP: Well, I was reading an interview of Jensen Ackles and he said something like, “We just had a meeting where they told us what we could say and what we couldn’t say and I don’t remember any of it.”

CS: [laughs] Oh, no! Nobody really talks to me about what I can say. I just know a lot. ‘Cause, I mean, my storyline, Supernatural hasn’t changed because [of it]. The episodes themselves, it’s not running around me and Dean and Ben by any stretch of the means. I’m just sort of a small grounding thing throughout the first part of the sixth season. So, they still have all their old storylines. I’m definitely not a part of their monster-hunting, or all of that stuff. You don’t even really see me a whole lot. I’m just consistently through there. And I’m sure they’ll kill me off sooner or later. [laughs]

IFP: But so far, not?

CS: So far, no deaths, no. So far, I’m still living.

IFP: I was a little worried that they were going to do a ‘Jessica’ with Lisa on the ceiling. And there were people wishing for it and I was thinking, “Then what was the point of reintroducing the character?”

CS: It’s kind of true, just to throw it away, but I guess that would have been like a restart of how the whole series started. But yeah, I know; I’m going to shoot episode five and six this week. [Episode four is] the one that Jensen directed and I wasn’t in that episode.

IFP: And that’s how far you’ve read up to that point?

CS: That’s how far I’ve gotten, yep.

IFP: Have you been doing a lot of interviews?

CS: Not really. I’ve done an interview with SPNConzine. And no, season six is a whole new beginning for me. I did an interview for exile2them [SPNConzine]. I did some interviews for the season five Supernatural episodes, but I haven’t really done the sixth season interview thing yet.

IFP: Okay, so you haven’t done any sixth season interviews?

CS: No.

IFP: Wow, I’m surprised.

CS: I know!

IFP: I would think people would be saying, “We have to interview this woman!”

CS: I think they are. It’s just we’ve all been keeping it a little low-key right now.

IFP: I noticed they were still pretty low-key about Lisa at Comic-Con.

CS: Yeah, I know and then it started slowly leaking out, little bits and information. I think they were trying to avoid the “revolt” against Dean, but now it’s leaked out that they were together and she’s coming back in season six.

IFP: How did you get into acting originally?

CS: [laughs] That’s funny. My mother made me do it?

IFP: Your mother made you do it?

CS: My mother made me do it! When I was nine in school, in Canada here, we have…there was a show called “Street Sense”. It’s a kids’ consumer show. And she made me audition for this kids’ consumer show. And I got a recurring part on it. Then I realized how great it was to love what you do for a living and get paid. I never really looked back after that. I went to school. I went to Performing Arts school, except as a dancer. And I went to Performing Arts school in Toronto and then went into music theatre, but left it for television. I didn’t take Drama in high school. It’s not something I knew I always wanted to do, at all.

IFP: So, you got into it via dance?

CS: Yeah, I danced my whole life. And then I used to do performances and stuff and then my mum just thought I’d like hosting or acting and then I did. [laughs] The funniest part, though, is that I was really horrible. When I look back, I go, “Okay, so that was the worst acting on the face of the earth.” But I just didn’t know anything, you know? I went in very blindly. And so, as long as I keep seeing improvement, I keep doing it.

IFP: There you go. I thought you did fine as Lisa on Supernatural.

CS: Thanks!

IFP: The character starts on the first episode kind of unlikeable. And I was thinking, “Oooh.” But towards the end, she gets very likeable. And I thought that had a lot to do with the fact that you really projected something deeper going on than just a fling nine years before.

CS: Yeah. I think so. Really, in hindsight, it’s 20-20, but here we are in season six and that’s the only way it would possibly work. You know what I mean? Like, Jensen and myself…the only way the relationship between Dean and Lisa living together [could work is that] it’s a mutual love and respect that’s deep there. And I’m not meaning like we’re in love with each other. I think we just kind of “got it”, like what I needed and what he needed. He wanted a family life and I wanted a family life. Yeah. There was something more solid of a relationship underlying it all than just a fling eight years ago.

IFP: So, you’re originally from Halifax [Nova Scotia]?

CS: Yep.

IFP: People say, “Where’s Halifax?” I say, “Hurricane Juan! Halifax!”

CS: Hurricane Juan. That’s so true! It was awful. My mom didn’t have enough power for a week and a half.

IFP: You’ll notice that we’re a Canadian zine, so this question comes up: How has your being Canadian affected your career and your choice of roles?

CS: Huh. Wow. Well, there’s definitely less choices. No, I’m joking! I don’t know how it affects my choice of roles, per se, because…I just work, you know? And so many people are like, “Well, I wouldn’t do this and I’ve kind of turned things down or made choices between things, but for the most part, I just love to be working. It’s how my life makes sense, so I try to keep myself busy.

Being Canadian…I’m very proud to be Canadian. I’ve been in and out of LA and I feel like people before, that went down into the whole Hollywood scene, have really had good work ethic. You know? And it’s not really the Star System. We don’t have the Star System here that exists in the U.S., so I find that everyone shows up and just works very hard and on top of their game and there’s no kind of ego mixed into that, whatsoever. We’re all just kind of on the same page.

I also can’t work in the States because I don’t have my papers! But, I dunno. I’m very proud of our Canadian way. I mean, people joke around how our shows look Canadian, the ones that are produced in Canada. But you know, there’s just great content coming out of here. It’s just a Canadian feel and I’ve coincidentally ended up working on a lot of American things, but they’ve all shot in Canada.

IFP: That happens a lot and I’ve always noticed that the Canadians really just sort of quietly bring it.

CS: I think so. I think that’s the best way to describe it. They quietly bring it. That’s very true. And you know, I feel very happy that I can work from home. Like, I live in Montreal and I can still fly and work places, but I like being close to home because it makes me feel normal. And I would miss my family if I was too far away all the time, so…

IFP: So, it’s better to be in Montreal, which is relatively close to Halifax?

CS: Yeah. And I like working in Canada, ’cause then I don’t get charged an exchange rate when I use my bank card.

IFP: So, moving on to Supernatural for a while, though I want to talk about your other roles, too. Don’t you have an upcoming movie called “The Shrine“?

CS: Yeah, it just came through here in the film festival.

IFP: But first, how did you get the role on Supernatural?

CS: Oh, that’s actually a really interesting question that no one’s asked me before.

IFP: Really?!

CS: Because no one’s ever asked me how I got onto Supernatural. And it’s actually a neat little story. They flew me down to Los Angeles and I screentested for Bela with Lauren Cohan. It was me and Lauren Cohan. And I didn’t end up getting Bela; she did and I 20921was like, “Oh, goshdarn! That’s awful because I love that show!” ‘Cause I was a huge fan of Supernatural before I ever auditioned.

So, I’d seen all the episodes and I was like, “Oh, that’s such a great show!” So, I was sort of bummed that I didn’t get the part and then they literally called me three weeks later and said, “We want to offer you the part of Lisa Braeden.” And then I thought, “Oh, wow! That’s so lovely and nice and wonderful” and look at us here. We’re in season six and I’m the only one that didn’t die!

IFP: So, why did you keep coming back? Did they call you or….

CS: Yeah! They’re the greatest crew/team to work with ever. These guys are so much fun and so professional and it’s such a great work environment. One time, I was there with Phil [Sgriccia] and he made a joke. It was when I was doing “Dream a Little Dream [of Me]” where [Dean] dreams about me. And [Phil] was like, “Yeah, well, you never know what could happen.”

And I never heard and that was 2007? 2008. It was literally a phone call out of the blue. So, in season five, they’ve called me back for an episode. And they called me back for the season finale and I was like, “Yes! I’m still in for season six!” Yeah, it was one of those days where life was grand because the phone rang and they were like, “Hey! Wanna come back on Supernatural?” It’s been a really good year for me, 2010. I’m happy. I’m very happy to be part of it.

IFP: So, why do you think Lisa has become “The One” in Dean’s mind for him? What does she bring to his life?

CS: Oh, goodness! Well, I think that, in the beginning, when I first was entered into the series, when Lisa came into it all, I think there was a side to her that’s very loving and soft, and she has a child, but she’s also strong. She’s not gonna take shit from Dean and her kid comes first. And I think there’s some admirable qualities there. And I think she just really, really did represent normal life to him, like what it could be. And even if he’s not ever capable of having that – even if he even pretends to live that way, [but] it’s not for him in the end – I think that resonated with Dean: “Oh, God. What life could be.” Oh, and not even whether Ben is his kid or not but the fact that – imagine if he had a kid and a normal life.

So, I dunno. I think Lisa’s independent and she doesn’t need to be out dating guys. She’s satisfied with her life and Ben is a big part of her life and I just think that she loves Dean. I think she fell in love with Dean a long time ago and she just loves him. And so, that’s why she accepts him. And he also saved Ben and, you know, there’s that whole “Hero” thing going on.

IFP: And he seems to feel the same way for her.

CS: Yeah. And I don’t think it’s chemistry-crashing-in-love. I think it’s more that grounded [love] when you really, deeply care about someone.

IFP: There’s been a lot of discussion online – because fans love to discuss – about why, when he had less than a year left, did Dean choose to go to see Lisa?

CS: Yeah!

IFP: And that’s a big deal!

CS: It is a big deal! I mean, when you think about it, I was like, “Why – okay, that’s interesting – why did he go to see me?” Sometimes, I just show up and don’t think about these things until afterwards, but…oh, gosh! I don’t really know. Who else is left?

I remember all the times when people were going on about the “Cassie” thing, [that] he really, truly loves Cassie. But, I think that those were these feelings and emotions and he really loved [Cassie] and – whoa, the big, crazy sex scene they had – but when you have a year left, I think the most stable [love interest for him is Lisa]. And I know that sounds really strange to say, but I always think that Lisa represents stability, even though they don’t know each other that well, they haven’t spent that much time [together]. I just think that when you put Sam and Dean’s life in perspective, Lisa’s the most normal rock of existence there could possibly be.

IFP: So, we’ve heard a whole lot about how Lisa and Ben are going to affect Dean. I’m curious about how Dean affects Lisa and Ben. What does he bring, aside from the “Hero” thing? Long-term, what does he bring to the table for her?

CS: Ohhh, wow. What does he bring long-term to Lisa? Goodness. I don’t know how spoilery I’m going to be, amalgamating things I know happen with how…

IFP: Well, we’ll skip over it then.

CS: Nono. One thing I can say is that I think, deep down inside, no matter how much she feels self-sufficient [with] Ben, that the Dean, for her, represents a father, like a dad for Ben. It’s the whole “missing” part in a little broken situation. It’s like healing a circle. Dean was part of her life. We already know that he’s lived with us for a year. So, he has slid into that as a father figure for Ben and I think Lisa loves the fact that Dean loves Ben not just Lisa. It’s a package deal. You know what I mean?

And he loves Ben as much as he loves Lisa. And he even showed that back in season five. He cared about Ben. So, I mean, long-term, there’s always that side that I don’t think Lisa’s afraid [of, but] I think she knows it’s inevitable that he can’t change wholeheartedly. Sam comes back and things go crazy. But I’m sure her intention going into it all was that she finally had the perfect family. Do you know what I mean? Finally, life made sense as a whole. It was a whole. And the missing piece fell into place and life was perfect.

IFP: Yeah, even…I just reviewed “The Kids Are Alright”, so I just watched it fairly recently.

CS: Oh, wow!

IFP: Something I noticed was that Lisa’s living in this gated community and it seems very normal on the outside, but she has this wild sort of past and she’s almost presenting a front as much as Dean is.

CS: Yeah, I would say [that] – and no longer living in that house, either.

IFP: Yeah, in a different house. I noticed that in the season finale.

CS: Yeah, and then soon to be another one. Yeah, we move a lot. But I think the difference between her and Dean is that she actually did shut that part off. That life ended. And she came out the other side and lived a normal life. So, the wild and the crazy stuff that ever went on in her life, it doesn’t exist anymore.

IFP: A lot of fans have wondering: is it even possible for Lisa to domesticate Dean? I think that’s their main concern.

CS: I don’t think so. I really don’t think so. I mean, Lisa has a child and a life and a house and things look on the outside like it’s a functional, little domesticated life. But I don’t really think it’ll work. I think Dean can pretend that it’s working and I’m sure he wants to convince himself that he’s okay and he’s happy. But there’s cracks.

IFP: So, even before Sam comes back, there are cracks?

CS: Yeah. He’s damaged goods.

IFP: That’s what the fans love about him.

CS: I know!

IFP: Have you been mainly working with Jensen Ackles or have you gotten a chance to work with Jared Padalecki, Misha Collins, or Jim Beaver, as well?

CS: I mainly work with Jensen. Though for a while there, I didn’t know anybody. I knew the crew and Jensen. I didn’t meet any of the c_sampson-finalother actors. But I did…that’s funny. I did the first and second episodes and I had one scene with Jim Beaver and Jared Padalecki.

IFP: Both of them or just one each?

CS: Both. They are both in the scene.

IFP: So, before we get too spoilery and get you in trouble, we talked briefly before about your other projects. And I wanted to talk about them for a little bit. So, we were talking about The Shrine, which I’ve heard some really nice buzz about.

CS: Really? Oh, good!

IFP: Yeah, I’ve heard some nice reviews from people who went to the film festival.

CS: Oh, cool! I didn’t get to go because I was shooting in Vancouver. So, I was really sad I missed it, but my friends went.

IFP: Oh, that’s too bad. Can you tell us a bit about it and your role in it at all?

CS: Well, my role: I am the journalist, Carmen Burke, and I hear about all these crazy stories happening in Poland. And I convince my boyfriend, who is a photographer, who is played by Aaron Ashmore, and my assistant, played by Meghan Heffern, to go to investigate in Poland in this crazy little village called “Ulvania”. And craziness ensues. There’s a big twist in this. I’m not sure if I can reveal it to be quite honest. Basically, what happens…I mean, if anyone went to see it in the film festival, they know that [huge spoiler deleted].

That’s the twist, so everyone thinks they’re practicing human sacrifice, but…. Yeah, so that was the big twist. And you know what? I’m always the nice girl next door. And this was the first time that I got to be pure evil. And it was awesome.

IFP: That must have been fun.

CS: Yeah, I wore a prosthetic face. And I had to speak Latin and Polish and people that know me really well said that they could see that. But most people, I dunno. You know, you get put in a box easily, like, “Ohhh, the Girl Next Door.” No. I’m [spoiler deleted]! I’ve phpThumb.phpalways wanted to be the one, the evil one, or the person who gets to shoot the gun. The other day, in Supernatural, we had to…Jensen gave me a gun when he left – well, Dean gave Lisa a gun – and I had to [shoot it]. He was like, “Show me how to do it” and I was like, “Uh…” In the scene, I was gonna show him how to do it and I could not pull the bolt back on this handgun. And it was so much harder than I expected to be and it got really, really bad. And I thought, “Maybe I don’t want to be the girl who shoots all the time,” ’cause it’s a lot harder than it looks, ’cause these were real ones.

Yeah, I finally got to play Evil [in The Shrine], and it was the coolest thing ever. I don’t really know what’s happening with The Shrine right now. I know they just hit Fantasia Film Festival. I guess they’re just looking for distribution and hopefully, it’ll get picked up and hit the theatres, I guess.

IFP: So, you don’t know what’s going on with it?

CS: No, I don’t know anything. The guys that made it are Trevor Matthews and Jon Knautz [who] also did Jack Brooks: Monster Slayer. They’re like two All State kids – ’cause they’re technically younger than I am – they’re like two kids who went to film school and came out and started making feature films. They’re pretty cool. I was really glad. It was a really neat thing to do. They’re very passionate and driven young men, you know?

IFP: And that was filmed in Ontario?

CS: That was. We filmed just outside of Toronto.

IFP: But it’s all set in Poland?

CS: Well, most of it’s set in Poland. And the beginning part is set in…I dunno. You know how we do the non-placement, “a city somewhere” [in Canadian productions for the U.S.]?

IFP: Like New Yorkcouver? Yeah.

CS: [laughs] Yeah, exactly.

IFP: So, you were in season two of Durham County, right?

CS: I was.

IFP: What was that like? And will you be in season three?

CS: I will not. I’m dead. I got killed. It was great. It was good. Listen, I think Durham County is a very, very good and excellent TV show. And I’m a big fan of it. I’m proud that it comes out of Montreal and that I got to be a part of it. But they did kill me off.

IFP: So, you’re gone?

CS: I’m gone, but the neat part was…I don’t know if you’re a True Blood fan, but Michelle Forbes killed me. And she played Marianne in True Blood. Working with her, it was really nice for me because I was a big fan.

IFP: You must have seen her in Star Trek, then.

CS: I did, but I’m not really a Trekkie. I didn’t watch it that much. I know her character and I know who she is [though].

IFP: You’ve been in some made-for-SyFy Channel features, such as High Plains Invaders and Swamp Devil….

CS: [laughs] Yeah….

IFP: And we just interviewed a writer for SyFy, Brad Abraham, about the process of making these films. I was wondering if you could give us a perspective of making a SyFy film from the actor’s point of view.

CS: Sure! Well, actually, touching on that, I’ll bring back a little thing about The Shrine. The interesting thing about shooting the swampdevil020509monster movie with them is that they used actual, tangible monsters. They had everything [in their] special effects. Everything was built. Everyone had prosthetic masks. It was all real and in front of you while you were doing the scene. Which, because I had done all of these made-for-TV things for SyFy, for me, it was amazing to have someone in a scene who looked freakin’ scary in front of me instead of just a little green-screen action. So, the SyFy [movies], I really think they’re fun. And I have a lot of fun, but the difference there would be you don’t ever get to see the monsters until afterwards. So, shooting with green screen – a lot of the time, there’s just a little orange ‘x’ and that’s the big, scary thing. [laughs]

IFP: And you’re supposed to get scared of it, yeah.

CS: Yeah, and so, that I find very hard. The main thing for SyFy: those are filmed very quickly in, like, 18 days, which is not a lot of time to film a movie. Everyone’s under time constraints when doing those and I think that’s the biggest thing I’ve noticed, working on Supernatural, is the pacing. [On] Supernatural, they work very fast. We get through things very fast. I know they feel like there’s no time, but coming from doing these little 17-day, made-for-SyFy, straight-to-TV things, it feels like all the time in the world.

I just think they’re fun. I think I’ll probably stop doing SyFy for a bit, running from monsters. I’m really tired of running and screaming. High Plains Invaders was filmed in Romania, of all places. And that was interesting in and of itself, that we were shooting in Romania. Cold Mountain had those sets and it was still intact, so we had the Cold Mountain set, which was $20 million dollars, or something like that, I believe. So, that was kind of neat for production value, being able to be on an intact set. It was really pretty cool.

IFP: You also filmed a couple of films in Africa, didn’t you?

CS: No! Those are lies. There’s an African actress named “Cindy Sampson” and no one seems to want to correct that and give her her own thing.

IFP: Really?! So, it’s a totally different actress?

CS: Yeah. She’s South African. She’s done Mama Africa and one other one that I have credits on IMDB for. [Mein Traum von Africa] She did a German [one] and then she did…there was something else she had. But yeah. She’s a South African actress. She does a lot of stage. I believe she does a lot of stage work. Not sure.

IFP: And they’ve just credited all those…and it’s not you?

CS: They credit those two….there’s like two credits on there that are not mine.

IFP: Oh, that’s so odd!

CS: I know!

IFP: So, you’ve been in some independent shorts, like The Straitjacket Lottery?

CS: Yes.

IFP: And what special challenges do independent films and/or short films present for you as an actor?

CS: I just think they’re fun. Mostly, [when] I’ve done a short film, I always feel like it keeps [you involved], if you don’t have work going a lot. In my downtime, I do short films because I think it’s nice to still stay involved in it all. And on short films, you’re more a part of the whole process, I find, than you are in these big-budget [films]. The big-budget things, you have your part in it, you have to do your part and you go home. Short films are more collaborative, I find. It’s really a team effort going into it. You feel like you’re more part of the whole process.

The other thing: I do short films because I think they’re neat and interesting and I do video games for Ubisoft.

IFP: You voice videogames?

CS: I do. Yeah, I just did a demo, but I do a lot of mocap, too – “motion capture”. I did the motion capture for Avatar, but not the voice because they already had the voices done.

IFP: Now, what does the motion capture involve?

CS: You wear a suit. It’s like…think of a scuba suit, I guess, a wetsuit. And I have reflectors all over it and gloves and glasses and shoes that have reflectors and you’re in a thing – it’s called “the volume” and it’s basically just a square in the studio. And there’s a 11647619_galwhole bunch of 3D infrared cameras around you and you do the scenes and it captures your body movement.

IFP: Huh. So, you’re representing the 3D figure?

CS: Yes. And then they take your bone structure because it’s your movement, like, everyone’s intrinsic movement as a human being becomes that character’s movements. They just build the character onto the movements you’ve already created.

IFP: You know, people have been asking for years for a Supernatural videogame. Would you do the motion capture for that?

CS: I totally would. Hey, and I’d get to do the voice, too! And do the face.

Well, they’re coming out with new technology all the time, because six months ago, I did some facial capture where they glue tiny, little dots all over your face and now, you literally just…you say your lines, but you can’t move your head, but you can make facial expressions into a camera and then they capture it from that. It’s pretty high-tech. It’s really, really high-tech and cool.

IFP: If you had to give advice to someone who wanted to go into film or television, especially a woman, what would you tell them?

CS: [laughs] ‘Don’t sleep your way to the top’? Oh, gosh, I don’t know. I’m really bad at networking and I’ve always just kind of…like, I get a lot of jobs, I find, through having good work ethic and always being prepared.

That being said, I think acting, just like anything in life, is preparation-meets-opportunity-meets-a whole hell of a lot of luck. You know, and acting’s so difficult because not everyone can say they’re a doctor, but anyone can say they’re an actor and anybody can critique an actor and it gets very rough that way. And you know, people go through life and they’re like, “If I just would have auditioned for that, maybe it would be mine.” But I just think you need to have some passion about what you want to do and if you never give up, eventually, it always happens, doesn’t it?

IFP: Yeah, if it was meant to be.

CS: I really think. I think it’s like keeping a grounded outlook on it all. Some days, when I get really stressed out, my manager used to remind me that I’m not saving lives. And it’s not rocket science and to always enjoy it and I really think work speaks for itself. And I know there are all these factors when you’re shooting that are crazy sometimes, but you know, hard work equals success. It is hard, though. I would say it’s hard, especially for breaking into the whole Hollywood thing and once you get in, it’s easy and you wonder, “Wow! How did I get here?”

But it seems daunting in the beginning when you’re like, “I really want to do this. How the hell do I get to Hollywood?” I have a lot of friends who live in LA that don’t get work, ever, and they stay in LA. I have friends who have been there for four or five years that haven’t booked anything that keep trying because they go to these great auditions. Myself, I just always came back to Canada. If I didn’t get work in the States, I come home because there’s always work here and there’s great work here. So, I just kept building. I think that’s why things have worked out all right. It’s instead of not working and hoping for that big break in Hollywood, I’ve just kept myself busy building a resume in Canada.

IFP: If you could be a Lovecraft or other horror monster, which one would you be?

CS: Any monster?

IFP: Any monster.

CS: Well, I’m so biased because I’d want to be…I’d want to be the Devil in Supernatural. He’s so cool! Jeez. I dunno. That’s such a hard question! Any monster – I’d want to be demon, but that’s just because I always wanted to wear black eyes.

IFP: Yeah, that always seems to be the fun part. People want to wear black eyes.

CS: Yeah, you know?

IFP: People seem to really like the idea of demons – that or vampires.

CS: Oh, yeah. We [Supernatural] have a vampire episode coming up.

IFP: Yeah, I heard you have a vampire episode. It’s a Twilight ep.

CS: Yep.

IFP: Are you in that?

CS: I am. But I don’t get to be a vampire. I already asked.

IFP: What is your favourite horror story?

CS: Oh, my gosh. My favourite? You mean a movie or story?

IFP: Any. It can be a movie; it can be a story…

CS: I’m a really big fan of Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein. I really liked that movie for a long time. I’m a horror buff, though. I’ve seen every horror movie that exists.

IFP: Really?

CS: Yes!

IFP: So, it’s more a case of trying to figure out which one you like as opposed to thinking of one of all?

CS: Oh, no! I’ve seen everything! Like, everything. I was even obsessed with, oh, Hellraiser. Okay…let’s…yeah…I dunno. I love them all. And Dracula.

I know it’s so cliched and in-style right now to be a vampire, but I’ve always been obsessed with vampires, ever since I was a kid and read Anne Rice and all that stuff: the Victorian, the typical back-in-the-[day]…and not even the new vampires. I mean the old vampires. The Lestats.

IFP: Yeah, the scary ones.

CS: Yeah!

IFP: What projects do you have coming up in the near future?

CS: Ooooh. In the near future? I don’t know. I can’t talk about anything that’s coming up because nothing’s guaranteed right now. At all. And if I say it out loud, it’ll probably fall through and I’ll be the biggest liar that ever existed.

IFP: Well, it is Friday the 13th.

CS: [laughs] You’re right, that is! That’s funny.

IFP: What is your dream project or role?

CS: Oh, my gosh. You’re not even going to believe it because it’s so out of nowhere. My dream project or role is to film with Judd Apatow and Paul Rudd. That’s it. That’s the upper echelon of fame and success for me.

IFP: In any kind of movie?

CS: Comedy. Crazy-comedy, Judd Apatow movie.

IFP: To finish up, I am looking forward to seeing you in season six.

CS: Oh, great, thank you. That means a lot to me.

IFP: As I said before, I do like that they finally decided to “go there”.

CS: Okay, good. So, I will remember this conversation when millions of fangirls are signing petitions for me to die!

IFP: Well, if it helps, if I’m on any online forums where somebody is doing that, I’ll put in my oar. I’ve already said in a couple of reviews, “Look, I like the Lisa storyline, so bring out the pitch and tar, already.”

CS: Oh, my God. That’s so funny.

IFP: You know, there are some of them that are never going to accept whatever comes out.

CS: Of course.

IFP: And then some of them are kind of nervous about other things than Lisa.

CS: Yeah.

IFP: You know, they’re nervous about: “Is Dean gonna be domesticated? Is Dean gonna be this and is Dean gonna be that?” They’re not even really thinking about Lisa except as a vehicle for the writers to do something bad to Dean, really.

CS: Very, very, very true.

IFP: I think that once the season starts and we get to see what’s going on – and we get to see Lisa as a character and as a person aside from just being whatever they’re doing to Dean this week – I think things will calm down a lot.

CS: I think [crazy fans] are few and I think the writers knew this when approaching it all. I think that most…I don’t think we’re going to get as many complaints as we thought because it’s really just a storyline that trickles throughout the existing storyline. It just trickles. It’s small. I think there was no other way to do it than they did it now because it works. I mean, for the time being. We’ll see.

IFP: Yeah, and it is a new direction.

CS: Definitely. And it’s a new direction but still allowed the old direction, I find. The way that they’ve written me into these things, it’s like, one episode, I’m literally just in a phone call, you know? So…yeah. I don’t think Lisa’s going to be overwhelming anybody with her screentime.

IFP: Well, that’s okay. Maybe that’ll ease her in. Although, as I said, I don’t have a problem with having a lot of her because I see the issue of Dean being ‘domesticated’ and Dean having a storyline with a family being separate issues.

CS: Yeah, exactly. That’s very true.

IFP: Because I kind of see Dean as kind of like the cute little tiger cub that you raise in your apartment until the day he gets big and weighs 500 lbs and he bites the head off your Chihuahua.

CS: [laughs] That’s such a great analogy! Because I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen. I’m gonna miss that Chihuahua….

IFP: Yeah, so I think that things will probably calm down quite a bit once people realize that they are two separate issues and that Lisa’s not going to do anything horrible to Dean.

CS: I’m not. I mean, I don’t know that, yet. I’m saying that preemptively because I haven’t read the recent episodes. I’m sure I’m not gonna do anything horrible.

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