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Syfy has picked up Lost Girl‘s 22-episode third season, to be aired starting in January (presumably in tandem with season three of Being Human). Season two will continue to run all summer.
This week, we have spoilers for Once Upon a Time and Supernatural:
Once Upon a Time (Sunday nights, 8pm, ABC)
By Heather S. Vina
The show was one of the ones featured in last week’s TV Guide Magazine “Finale” issue (June 4-10). I don’t see a scan of it online, and the site doesn’t feature it, so here are some quotes from my issue:
The question the magazine asks is: “What the heck was that purple smoke?”
A: “The purple smoke is magic. They’re bringing magic to reality, but does that mean Fairytale Land exists again? That we can go back and forth?” says Jennifer Morrison (Emma). Explains the article, all the producers have told her is that “something exciting is going on.”
Also according to Jennifer, the characters will not be returning to their fairy-tale lives and that will be explained in season two: “Breaking the curse may just be the beginning of the final battle.”
Matt at TV Guide discussed his “Emmy” predictions and whether or not Robert Carlyle should/will get a nom for “Best Supporting Actor”. Of anyone on the show, he would be my choice, as he does an excellent job of playing the same character with different personalities.
TV Guide also listed the show as a “winner” in their online “Biggest Winners/Losers” article.
Spoiler TV has up a video interview with Raphael Sbarge (Jiminy Cricket/Archie). You can see it at their site, here.
Ausiello at TVLine had a bit up on the show in his latest column from producer/writer Jane Espenson:
“Question: TVLine’s comments section re: Once Upon a Time is the best. Anything you can share to spark more prediction threads about next season? – Jen
“Ausiello: Don’t count on a time jump between seasons. ‘We’re picking up right where we left off, but where we left off was in the middle of a veer in a different direction,’ consulting producer Jane Espenson told TVLine’s Meg Masters at last weekend’s ATX Television Festival in Austin, before reiterating, ‘Season 2 will be different than Season 1.’”
“Question: Any word on which new fairy tale characters Once Upon a Time will introduce in Season 2? – Claire
“Ausiello: The frontrunner would seem to be the Little Mermaid. ‘I would hope Ariel would join the show,’ says Espenson. ‘She’s one we’ve definitely talked about.’ But there have certainly been others. ‘There are a whole lot of princesses we haven’t seen – like Aurora, Rapunzel and Jasmine,’ she adds. ‘And it’s hard to look at that list without going, Well, what about Goldilocks?! And they’d all be good, because what we do is take them and go, Well, the thing you never knew about Little Miss Muffet is….‘”
Also at TVLine, the site has up an interview with Lana Parilla (Regina, the Evil Queen), who discusses what the advent of magic into Storybrooke could mean for Regina.
That’s it for this week! Hopefully, we will get more soon and, hopefully, they will announce who is attending Comic-Con this year for the show. Last year, it was every lead actor except for Jared Gilmore (Henry). As they showed the entire pilot, there wasn’t much from the panel, but, hopefully this year, there will be more interaction with the writers, producers and cast.
Supernatural (Friday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles
The Canadian version of the online TV Guide site started a potential firestorm last week by stating that Sera Gamble was fired and didn’t quit. Curiously, a gossip site also claimed around the time of the announcement she was leaving (back in early April) that she had been fired, even quoting an unnamed source: “Supernatural has a strong fan base, but people just didn’t like what Sera has done…If [the fans] weren’t so dedicated, the show would have been cancelled during her first season.” However, the TV Guide site does not cite anyone (so it could have been just an assumption by the article’s author). Plus, the “unnamed source” game is an easy way to make up quotes. So, it’s really not been confirmed one way or the other and likely won’t be any time soon. I’m not sure it matters at this point. Whether she chose to pursue other projects or they just didn’t renew her contract, the result is the same and she’s gone as a showrunner. She has already confirmed that she won’t be writing for the show, anymore, either. Overall, fans seem relieved, so it’s probably just as well.
Speaking of rumours about writers leaving, another kerfuffle occurred earlier in the week when an article reported that Ben Edlund and Ben Blacker were leaving. This seemed a little odd. What about Ben Acker? And hadn’t Blacker and Acker already said they were leaving last season? Both Acker and Blacker then confirmed that they were, indeed, leaving, but that Edlund was staying. It’s nice to hear some confirmation that Edlund is sticking around, but it’s not as though they would tell anyone before an official announcement of Edlund were leaving. For now, anyway, Edlund’s still with the show.
In all honesty, I’m a little sad they won’t be back. I liked “The Mentalists”. Even if the rumours that Edlund rewrote the episode heavily are true, it was still different from his other work. If we have to lose a writing team, I’d as soon it be Dabb and Loflin, who seem to have run out of gas. Ah, well. Hopefully, they will revive under the new showrunner.
A late interview from the upfronts with Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles came out last week. No spoilers, but Padalecki admitted what the worst song on his iPod is.
The Paris con finally ran last weekend, with guests Richard Speight Jr., Mark Sheppard, Sebastian Roche, Chad Lindberg, and Jason Manns. No spoilers appear to have come out of this con.
This Friday’s repeat will be “Hello Cruel World”.
Finally, the ratings for the repeat of “Out with the Old” were 0.3/1 in the demo and 740,000 in the audience, which put it in the upper third of the pack and near the top of the repeats.
So, not a lot of spoilers this week. It’s June and things are usually pretty slow before Comic-Con. So, let’s look at six reasons why our new showrunner, Jeremy Carver, might be good for Supernatural:
1. He likes canon. He’s demonstrated this in Being Human. By that, I mean he’s recognised that the first rule of telling a coherent long-term story that people will stick with and care about is staying true to the storyline you’ve got. This showed up in things like Bishop’s rebellion near the end of season one and Sally’s Reaper plot this season. Just when you were thinking, “Wow, the writers are really screwing with their own canon,” it turns out that things were not what they seemed. In other words, while apparent canon carnage has signaled, “I don’t give a damn,” in the past for Supernatural showrunners, on the Syfy version of Being Human, it usually signals a sleight of hand for a huge twist that will bring everything back into alignment for one big “AH-HA!” Also, he’s remembered Supernatural canon (like Dean not remembering Tessa near the beginning of “Death Takes a Holiday”, or that iron can trap ghosts) when other writers haven’t.
2. He paces well. He paces very, very well. While the middle can meander a little bit in seasons for Being Human, everything builds up to a point where you do not want to miss the last third of the season. This is because revelations are carefully spread out over episodes between 10 and 13, such that it’s an extended season finale, as opposed to the Supernatural tendency to cram anything big into the last episode, or maybe two. Nothing is wasted in Being Human. If anything, some middle storylines (like the Pureblood twins in season two) have seemed rushed for lack of time on Being Human, indicating that Carver might actually benefit more from having ten extra episodes, not flounder around, wondering how to fill them. My impression from his various episodes of Supernatural and his pacing on Being Human is that the one thing Carver doesn’t lack is ideas about what to do with a season’s worth of episodes.
3. He shares well. All three of the main characters in Being Human got equal time and I was pretty happy with the development for all three of them (and even a side character or two) by the end of season two. Characters in his Supernatural episodes also get equal time. He has created some fan favourites, like Grandpa Shady (before he was shady), Grandma Deanna, Young Mary, Young John, Casey, Raphael, Jody Mills, and the evil pagan Christmas gods. Plus, he wrote a Bobby-centric episode and an entire episode about the backstory for Castiel’s vessel. He’s not a fanboy of just one character. This show needs that.
4. He likes Dean. He likes Dean a whole lot. This is the guy who had Dean kill a high-level angel and stand toe to toe with its death grace. This is a guy who wasn’t afraid to separate the brothers or send Dean back in time alone to have 95% of an episode to himself. This is a guy who had Dean go off on an episode-long adventure with Castiel. He likes Dean. And he seems to love giving Jensen Ackles different things to do, whether it’s flipping out and telling Team Free Will to take a hike, or hobnobbing with a demon while trapped in a cellar, or getting killed in a hundred different ways. Carver’s version of Dean is also really quite feral. Which is hardly a shocker when you consider Aidan on Being Human.
5. I like his version of Sam. His version of Sam is smart and brave, has a learning curve and a sense of humour, loves his brother, and doesn’t have his head stuck somewhere unmentionable. His Sam has growth. His Sam is a hero. I’d like to get to know that Sam better.
6. He plays well with others. Lest we forget the other person who makes Being Human great, Carver has been co-running that show with his wife for two seasons. He knows how to be a team player. And his cast loves him. We need a Supernatural showrunner in the writers’ room who is also beloved by his/her cast.
We’ll be back next week with more spoilers. Stay tuned and check out our reviews of Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Torchwood, The Event, Once Upon a Time, Grimm, and Supernatural.







I can’t wait until ComicCon, for some real indication of where the season might go. As I said last week, I’m not pleased about the TV Guide spoiler, but I’m willing to take it with a grain of salt, since it was given before the writing for the season even broke. I really want to resume my love affair with Supernatural, and I’m hoping that Carver will use S8 to clean up the mess of the past 2-1/2 years and get down to business. I don’t expect everything to change with episode one, but I’m willing to give Show a lot of leeway, if I just see some progress.
I have enjoyed Carver’s writing style, and I really like Being Human, as you know. I agree with your assessment of Being Human and his past history with Supernatural. I think Carver will give us a storyline that will focus on the strength of its characters and the canons which should be honored. I was not a big fan of Gamble, but I didn’t hate everything she did. She had some great episodes as a writer, but, as a showrunner, she seemed to go off the rails. I had hoped she would succeed since the number of female showrunners is small, but catering to the fringe of the fan base is not the way to go. Souless Sam was a disaster and I thank God it is over. I do hope we get a different more mature Sam rather than the one we have had since season three. Thanks for the spoilers Paula!
I’m so hoping your six reasons why Jeremy Carver might be good for SPN comes true. I can be very forgiving of any storyline or direction, if these things are in place.
I do agree that Carver has treated Dean’s character very well in the past. Under Carver’s control, I have very high hopes that the best actor and the best character this show has will get the attention he deserves.
Thanks for the “6 Things,” Paula! That does give me hope for the coming season, which I needed a little after the TVGuide/Singer thingy. I do hope that Jeremy Carver speaks soon, because I really want to know what he thinks and his views on the show, and if the hopes we have for season 8 will be fulfilled or not. I know it probably won’t happen until Comic Con, but I’m still hoping we might get a little something earlier than that!
Your six reasons are awesome and exactly what I would want for the show too. When I heard Carver was taking over my first thoughts were how awesome it could be especially for Dean (and Castiel). Even under Kripke calling the final shots he managed to have some amazing episodes. When I really thought about it besides Edlund he was my favorite writer so I’m excited to see what he does. I hope so much that he won’t waste the Purgatory story line and end it too soon, and not just because of what it could mean for Dean. Though okay sue me I want Dean to have a major story line next season, and I want more Dean/Cas stuff lol. But it’s not like I don’t also want Sam to be normal again. At this point I just don’t think I’ll ever really care for the character again but it would be nice to see him doing things as a normal person and not a total Stu. And for there to be nothing wrong with him for a change.
Your list re Carver gives me so much hope, Paula! He sounds like a man that will challenge everyone, from writers to actors. Now I’m glad Carver left when he did, so the stink of the decline is not on him.
I think Sera was fired, and that the pressure came from Pedowitz. He is willing to move SPN to Wed and wants the SPN fans to transfer to Arrow, which I think he’s counting on being the lynchpin of the new CW.
That means losing the anchor around SPN’s neck – Sera. It has to do better in ratings, and it can’t with the lame, crippling stories she put out for 2 tortuous years. Her decisions have the fandom at its own throat. Something was needed to signal “new era” for Wed. Arrow audiences, and that way was sacking her and her soap opera emo storytelling.
I don’t care if the door hits Sera in the tush on the way out.
Terrific list, Paula! It’s wonderful to feel this excited about the show again. Carver is absolutely the best choice for the job and I can’t wait to see how the whole Purgatory storyline plays out next season.
Singer….what a disappointment. Until recently, I hadn’t realized he too was a card carrying member of Special Snowflake Sam” Fan Club. The guy should at least learn to pretend to be unbiased. And how sad that this interview took the wind out of a lot of people’s enthusiasm; hopefully, Comic Con will help restore it back again. But in the meantime, I hope Singer stays away from doing any more interviews.
I thought Singer was OK, until he flat out lied to Jensen about when the Impala was coming back. Soon after Slash Fiction, Jensen answered a question at a convention about when the Impala would be back. He said he asked Singer, and he was told it would be “soon.” Jensen warned him, it better be. Well, Baby back in the last 20 minutes of the year isn’t “soon” and Dean never got that story he was promised either. [Try "I don't know" for a change, Bobby.]
This sounds like SPN that I would want to watch again. I love your input, but will however wait until spoilers is released before I decide whether to watch again or not.
I really have difficulties with liking Sam after shows pimping of him, and I am not sure anything can change that.
Dean – and Cas – has suffered as characters. Still, both Jensen and Misha have managed to keep their characters likable, despite SG`s attempts of destroying them.
My faith in Jeremy Carver is based on what a good job he has done with Being Human. I know that Carver can write, but Sera Gamble could write well too. What she couldn’t do was plan out a season. I have seen proof from Being Human that Carver can plot out a whole season. Like you said, he knows his canon, knows his characters and gives them equal treatment, and is pretty good at pacing! He’s our Obi-Wan, our only hope at this late hour.
Thanks Paula. I am very hopeful. I just watched the first four episodes of Being Human and am impressed. There is an emphasis on character development for all three of the main characters. Also supporting characters are there to contribute to the development of both plot and character arcs. I cannot but wonder how season 6 & 7 would have turned out in Carver’s hands. We at least would have understood whatever internal struggles were plaguing Dean and Sam. This would go a long way towards making Sam more interesting and sympathetic. Dean at least had JA’s acting to ground the character and provide more development than the writing allowed.
I still think everyone is overreacting to the TV guide singer spoiler. It contained inaccuracies, at least based on what I saw in the finale. Sam having the human story means he’s out of the mytharc. Also of course Crowley wants castiel; he said as much and that he was holding off on both Meg and castiel because the Winchester’s needed them. No surprise there. I think he is withholding on Dean because that is finally where it’s at. Finally reuniting the brothers soon can mean anything. Soon is a relative phrase.
The most spoilery information comes from JA directing the first episode to be produced. I have read thoughts that it is indeed the premier, as well as that it is the third episode to air as usual. Whichever he is directing will be dean-lite. To me this is the most significant clue we have. A Dean -lite episode suggests they are still separated whenever it airs.
Thanks, guys!
I don’t think we can hang too much on the TV Guide article. It was only a quote here and there, not a full interview, and the article writer made several factual errors. Plus, it’s early days. People connected to the show said a lot of things before Comic-Con that turned out not to be true. I think it’s far more significant that Ackles seems quite cheerful this season compared to the past three (well, four) years.
It’s hard to say what Crowley’s motivations were, or even how much control Crowley had over the outcome. People speculated plenty about Sam’s appearance at the end of “Swan Song” and look how that turned out. The thing with Crowley and Dean is that Crowley needs Dean kind of the way Dean needs Death. Crowley doesn’t work very well as a Big Bad because he’s an opportunist, a bottom-feeder. And he has no real motivations to change the status quo. Sure, he’s an expansionist, but to remake the world in his own image? Nah. He lacks both the vision and the drive.
The thing is that Dean and Crowley both want the world pretty much the way it is, with Dean maybe wanting it a bit safer for humans and Crowley wanting it a bit riper for the picking. Dean is a fearsome Hunter, which is very useful for Crowley. Hence why Crowley was willing to put an elaborate plan into motion behind Castiel’s back to get Dean out of retirement. But I think that Crowley knows full well that if Dean were to decide that the SPNverse would be better off without Crowley, eventually, Dean would get him. Because that’s what Dean does. And Dean *always* lives (or comes back) to spit on the smouldering graves of his enemies. Even witches like Don, Maggie and Patrick only survive because the brothers are distracted by bigger fish.
So, he kind of needs Dean back at some point. If Sam alone were good enough, “Exile on Main Street” would never have happened. And if Dean had been left behind while Sam went to Purgatory, Dean would very quickly have had Crowley’s intestines on a stick. It’s a little like sticking Dean and Castiel somewhere until he can figure out a plan to deal with them.
Crowley does this little song and dance of smoke and mirrors, flattery and intimidation, to keep Dean not focused on killing him. And I think Dean is on to him at this point, but Crowley is useful to Dean, too. So, Crowley gets to live another day. The moment Crowley stops being useful to Dean, though–[draws finger across throat]
I bet Crowley was faking it when he arrived in the season finale and saw Castiel and Meg with the brothers. It makes no sense that he would be feeling anything but pants-wetting terror, but of course, he had to keep up the act.
Hi paula! Very interesting Crowley thoughts. When I wrote, “I think he is withholding on Dean because that is finally where it’s at”, I was referring to Singer leaving Dean out in the TV guide article. My meaning, Dean will no doubt finally have the big story. However taking it in context with everything else I said it looked like was talking about Crowley. Glad I was so sloppy in my writing because your Crowley ideas are great. I think more highly of him than you do. Without a doubt he does not underestimate Dean. Having dean and cas our of the way gives Crowley the opportunity to take full advantage of the power vacuum left by the Levi. So potentially fun times on earth, in purgatory and in heaven. I am pretty excited.
I just watched seasons 1-2 of justified. Excellent writing and acting. Guest stars included Yed , Bobby and Gabriel in multiple episodes nearly unrecognizable as a hillbilly. It’s not horror but worth watching. We are jonesing for s3.