- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.01: Meet the New Boss
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.02: Hello, Cruel World
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.03: The Girl Next Door
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.04: Defending Your Life
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.05: Shut Up, Dr. Phil
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.06: Slash Fiction
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.07: The Mentalists
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.08: Season 7, Time for a Wedding!
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.09: How to Win Friends and Influence Monsters
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.10: Death’s Door
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.11: Adventures in Babysitting
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.12: Time After Time
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.13: The Slice Girls
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.14: Plucky Pennywhistle’s Magical Menagerie
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.15: Repo Man
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.16: Out with the Old
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.17: The Born-Again Identity
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.18: Party On, Garth
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.19: Of Grave Importance
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.20: The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.21: Reading Is Fundamental
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.22: There Will Be Blood
- Recap and Review: Supernatural 7.23: Survival of the Fittest (Season Finale)
By Paula R. Stiles
[spoilers ahoy for several seasons]
Tagline: The brothers put together the final ingredients for their magic weapon and go after Dick. And showrunner Sera Gamble bids us adieu.
Recap: Two-minute-long recap of the season to “Carry On, Wayward Son”. As happy as I am to get the traditional song, the recap makes it obvious how boring this season (and season mytharc) has been, especially when the more interesting episodes get only a flash each because of how little they were involved with the All Important Leviathan Mytharc, which apparently wasn’t important enough to be on for more than fractions of the season.
Cut to a really boring conversation between Crowley and Dick, with Dick having Crowley in a big devil’s trap (which somehow includes things like a comfy chair). Crowley starts off by snarking about Dick’s insults to him in their previous meeting. When Dick shrugs this off as a simple misunderstanding, Crowley calls him on it and says that Dick must have caught Kevin and now knows about the brothers’ plan. He then butters Dick up about how supersmart he is (since Dick really isn’t, so the writers have to overemphasise his nonexistent awesomeness). Dick responds by assuming that Crowley has a vial of his own blood somewhere to have sent to the brothers, should Dick whack him. I actually buy that Crowley would do that. I just don’t quite see why he hasn’t given it to them, already.
After some negotiating over the Leviathans getting the U.S. and the demons getting Canada (because, apparently, the rest of the world no longer exists as far as the writers are concerned), they make an elaborate deal, on tens of feet of parchment in Latin (The two sections we see refer to the deal over Canada and over not giving Sam and Dean Crowley’s blood, respectively, and I bet that’s all that and the two codicils we also see are really all that’s on that long roll. Not sure what the reference to “Moses” is all about, since that sentence is partially obscured. The codicils appear to include added clauses limiting or prohibiting teleportation and electronic communication). In it, Crowley agrees that he will give the brothers a vial of blood from some other demon instead of his own. That way, their weapon won’t work. This longish scene will quickly become pointless when Crowley turns around and gives the brothers exactly what they want.
Cue title cards.
Cut to the brothers on a dark road at night, Dean driving, Sam on shotgun. Sam is looking at a map. He tells Dean that wherever they’re going is off an exit in three miles. Dean grumbles that what they’re about to do is “a bad idea”. When Sam points out that it’s the only idea that they have, Dean insists he only meant it as a joke when he first said it (so it was Dean’s idea). Sam suggests that they call Castiel “again”, but when Dean says that the last time he tried, Castiel arrived on top of his car, “naked, covered in bees,” Sam ruefully that it’s probably not a good idea, after all. I’d have liked to see that scene, but sadly, we don’t. Instead, we get a lame infodump as the brothers turn on the radio and discover a show talking about Dick Roman being at Sucrocorp headquarters. Well, gosh, that’s sure convenient.
The “bad idea” turns out to be breaking into a convent mausoleum of Hispanic nuns and smashing through a nun’s crypt to get at her femurs, complete with Dean tastelessly saying, “Okay, let’s bone this nun.” I don’t know what this show has against nuns, but I wish they’d stop. It was okay in “Lucifer Rising”, but it’s turned into a creepy trope. Also not cool is that Dean talks about wanting to be “more righteous” like the boring, quiet nun they pick. The writers have apparently forgotten that 1. Dean is the only Righteous Man this show has had so far and 2. Dean has Phoenix ash in his blood, which quite handily killed Eve, Mother of Monsters and apparent Leviathan. Way to ignore your own show canon.
Meanwhile, Bobby (still inside that poor maid) is on a dark street, watching a TV through a store window. Dick Roman is being interviewed on the program. There sure are a whole lot of ordinary people on this show yakking about Dick Roman acquiring Sucrocorp. For a Big Bad who’s trying to stay under the radar, he sure sucks at it. YED, Lilith, Lucifer, and Eve all managed to do a lot more without ever being seen or mentioned in public by name. Bobby/Maid buys something long and pointy. When he/she tries to get into a pickup truck, Bobby accidentally separates from his ride when grabbing an iron bar in the back (but the car is no trouble. Right). The suddenly freed maid begs Bobby to let her go, but he sees Dick on the front page of a newspaper he had the maid buy and possesses her again when she tries to run. ‘Cause that doesn’t make him look like a rapist or a monster, or anything.
The brothers get back to Rufus’ shack and summon Crowley, but Crowley doesn’t show up. When Dean wonders if Crowley is just refusing to come, Sam points out that the summons compels him to come (Yes, show. Why do you keep ignoring that whenever it suits you?). Instead, Meg knocks on the door, complaining that Castiel showed up at her hiding place “halfway across the world” and brought her back here (By the way, writers, it’s “lying low” not “laying low.”). When Dean asks why, she tells him to go ask Castiel, after all, “he was your boyfriend first.”
After a double-take that probably half of the audience shared, Dean goes out to see Castiel, who is sitting in some newer car (wearing clothes, this time), listening to Don McLean’s “Vincent”. Now, I like “American Pie” (the song not the movie), but I really dislike “Vincent”. Talk about proto-emo. Jeez, show.
Dean seems to agree, as he needs a head-shaking moment to rally before he wades in and asks Castiel what’s up. Castiel goes off on a ramble about how monkeys are so smart, so why test cosmetics on them (which, admittedly, is something I wonder about, too)? He asks Dean just how important lipstick really is to him. After yet another double-take, Dean admits, “Not very.”
Inside, Castiel is more honest about what’s bugging him. It turns out that the Earthside garrison of angels from two episodes ago has fallen silent. When Castiel went to Kevin’s house, he found out why – they’re dead. Now, we only saw the two goon angels get killed, so I don’t know if we’re supposed to believe that Inias just went to ground, or got killed, too, or the writers simply forgot about him. But anyhoo, it’s apparently just Castiel now and he’s bummed. The brothers aren’t too thrilled to hear that Leviathans can kill angels, or that Kevin has been kidnapped by Dick, either. According to Castiel, it was the Leviathans’ tendency to snack on angels that got them consigned to Purgatory in the first place. I’m not sure why Castiel wasn’t aware of this during “Mommy Dearest”, but then, the entire writing staff appears to have forgotten about “Mommy Dearest”. And “Frontierland”.
When Dean presses Castiel on helping them, Castiel goes off on another ramble about the monkeys and then says that he doesn’t want to fight. He made the mess, but it’s the brothers’ problem now. This seems to be his current passive-aggressive defense – to play “mad” whenever someone presses him on an issue that makes him uncomfortable.
At that moment, Meg notices the bowl that the brothers had used to summon Crowley. Dean tells her about the spell and that Crowley didn’t show up. She decides to bail, anyway, but at that moment, Crowley finally appears. Gee, how convenient.
Crowley then proceeds to threaten Meg and snarl at the brothers and get his back up over Castiel – which I find, on the whole, utterly ridiculous considering Castiel could just white-light him into oblivion if he so chose and the brothers could shiv him with the Spork (which, funnily enough, is neither mentioned nor shown in this episode). But instead, we have the brothers looking abashed, while Meg cringes in a corner and Castiel tries to placate Crowley with honey. It’s this kind of careless writing that won’t have me missing Sera Gamble on this show.
In the end, Crowley proves toothless (and Meg has the balls to point out that he hasn’t actually yet figured out how to kill angels, something she has figured out and doesn’t share with him). He gives up a vial of his blood and tells the brothers all about the deal he made with Dick. How he is able to do this when he is supposedly bound by a signed and notarised contract is never explained. After threatening Meg again (though reluctantly deciding that Castiel likes Meg and the brothers will need Castiel, so he needs to leave both alone for now) and reassuring the brothers that Dick isn’t dumb, he teleports away.
Cut to Dick and his assistant, Susan, walking down a hallway, while Dick asks her if he looks dumb. Note to writers: If you have to keep telling us that your Big Bad is smart, something is very wrong. Stop having characters Tell us that Dick is smart and have him actually do smart things. See, the really, really smart thing, Dick, would have been not to dig up the big how-to manual on killing you in the first place.
Anyhoo, Susan, of course, reassures her boss that he does not look dumb (’cause being fired means having to bib herself), at least not in that body. Dick tells her that one of the “rules of negotiation” is to have a plan B when the other party “screws you.” Which would make sense if demon deals weren’t binding the way devil’s traps are, but hey, who cares about canon? At any rate, Susan quickly guesses that her boss’ plan is to use “the arm”. Gee, I wonder whose arm that could be? Yup. It’s the original Dick Roman’s. LevDick has Susan bring it in and then calls in his security detail.
Kevin is in another room, trying the locked door (He just tried it, huh? What was he doing before?), when a Leviathan dressed in a white coat brings in a blonde girl who walks in nonchalantly and sits down. She’s eating a Twizzler. I guess it’s the additive in the Twizzler that makes her so dopey, but I’m quite sure that eating the Twizzler is supposed to make this perky cheerleader look like a cud-chewing cow. Roofieing and killing off Buffy, are we, show?
Kevin tries to talk to her, but he doesn’t get far. He finds out her name is “Polly”, that she’s not a Prophet, that he’s “basically on my own,” and that’s about it. If Polly ever had any brains (which seems unlikely), there’s no evidence of them now. Later, the guy in the white coat comes in with a dress and tells her to “get dressed,” even though she’s already dressed in a blouse with a plunging neckline and a skirt. As she takes her clothes off right in front of Kevin, he notices that the dress comes with two barrettes. Later, we see Polly standing there, blankly, wearing the dress and only one barrette. The guy in the white coat comes in with a sandwich for Kevin, who claims he’s vegan and only takes the water (which, you know, Kevin, could easily be drugged). White Coat Flunky leads Polly out, whereupon Kevin suddenly decides he can pick a lock on a deadbolted door with a bobby pin. Um…right.
Back at Rufus’ shack, the brothers are debating whether or not Crowley hates them or Dick more, and pouring blood on the bone. Despite having read the book, too, Sam doesn’t seem to know that there is no ritual besides pouring the blood, which he does, for no apparent reason, on the handle end rather than the pointy end. Dean also has to As-You-Know-Sam that the bone is a one-shot weapon, which also strikes me as pretty lame. Nothing appears to happen, which confuses them after the thunder and lightning of cracking open the words.
Castiel appears behind them, putting a hand on Dean’s shoulder and causing him to jump in surprise. But Castiel just has sandwiches that he made from bread, veggies and a pig (which he “comforted” and “slaughtered” himself) he found in Normandy. I don’t think we’re supposed to see any ironic comparison to the way Leviathans eat humans, here. He gives Dean his sandwich first. When Sam asks why Crowley said they’d need Castiel with them when they hit Sucrocorp, Castiel insists that they don’t. He’s sitting this one out.
Kevin, having broken out of his room, spots Dick in a conference room with a bunch of Leviathan “delegates” and Polly, but is quickly caught by Susan. Dick tells the “delegates” he has not met them all together since they were “inside that angel”. He also tells them that “the sushi’s made of fresh orphan.” I roll my eyes. What is this, a Dickens novel? Dick talks about the “slaughterhouses” (Since when has there been more than one Leviathan slaughterhouse in the show until now?) and how humans will be drugged into walking right into them. Leviathans have been used to infiltrate law enforcement, starting with 911 operators, in case anyone tries to call in…what? Being driven to a slaughterhouse? That doesn’t make much sense.
Then he brings up a map in which the country is divided into regions according to how the humans will be used and later talks about curing cancer. At this point, he has Polly brought up (by White Coat Flunky, who is now in a suit and spends the entire scene smirking like an idiot). Dick puts up an overhead about weeding out certain types of people that basically boil down to short people, smart people, hemophiliacs, and skinny people. He comments that Polly is “too stoned to care” about what is about to happen (as if anybody in that room gives a crap what is about to happen to Polly) then has her take off her dress. She immediately drops it, standing there in a flesh-coloured bra and panties. Dick snarks that the Leviathans aren’t there to make “art”, so skinny people need to be weeded out, then starts talking about an additive that can be put in coffee creamer. He injects a concentrated version of the additive into Polly’s arm and she makes a cute little whimper shortly after the needle goes in. Then, a moment later, she looks bewildered as she starts to foam at the mouth. She drops at Dick’s feet, convulsing, and dies.
Yeah, this scene is as gratuitous as it sounds.
Outside, the brothers are hacking into Sucrocorp’s security cams thanks to “Charlie”‘s hacking suggestions (except that Frank already taught this trick to Dean in “Adventures in Babysitting”) and discovering something disconcerting – Dick is everywhere in the building. It seems that Dick’s security detail are taking their roles as body shields for the boss to heart. A further wrinkle presents itself when a pickup arrives and the possessed maid gets out. Sam recognises her from the motel and makes the leap to Bobby when he sees her wiping away black ectoplasmic snot. He rushes off alone to grab Bobby/Maid before they can be spotted by the security cameras, leaving Dean holding the bone. When Sam catches up to him/her, Bobby/Maid takes a swipe at Sam with a large knife and then starts to choke him out against the side of a black van. Only when Bobby sees his own reflection in the van does he finally realise what he’s doing and blast out of the maid. Sam picks her up and then he and Dean take her to the hospital, where the medics tell the brothers she will be okay. Well…physically, anyway.
Back at the cabin, while Sam is explaining the multiple Dick Romans problem to a Meg who is completely unsympathetic to the maid’s plight, Dean notices that Castiel looks uncomfortable. When Dean questions him on it, Castiel at first hedges by saying they should get a cat (I kind of pity any animal they’d get for a pet). Seeing the attempt to sidestep the issue for what it is, Dean insists that Castiel explain what Crowley meant about his being able to help with the Leviathans. Castiel refuses. His voice breaking, he says that he “destroyed everything” before and he’d just do it again. At this point, overriding Sam’s objections and Meg’s sarcasm, Dean yells at Castiel, telling him that the Leviathans are his mess and, broken or not, he needs to clean it up. I cheer. Broken Castiel may be amusing and more like a traditional angel than some of the more human permutations of a character, but as the way Dean steps back when Castiel approaches him shows, he also hurt a lot of people. And he owes the brothers – personally. Dean has every right to call him on the randomness.
Distressed, Castiel flies off. Meg snarks that Dean has just scared of “the Empire’s last hope.” When Dean asks her what she’s talking about, she points out that Castiel had all of the Leviathans inside him, so he should be able to recognise their real…well, not faces so much as essences, telling which Dick is real and which one isn’t. Unfortunately, Castiel is nuts. As if to emphasise this, Castiel reappears behind them, playing Twister.
Later, Dean is trying to watch Dick on the computer, complaining that there aren’t any “tells” for the real one because all of the fake ones also “downloaded Dick’s brain.” Well, actually, they downloaded his arm…oh, never mind.
As Sam is trying to determine what Dick might be up to that could give them a clue, Bobby suddenly appears. Rather than apologise to Sam (Oh, God forbid), he proceeds to be a complete asshole, calling them “idjits” and “morons” for not burning his flask or figuring out how to get Dick. He complains that he still wants to possess someone else and go after his enemy. Finally being honest for the first time since his death, Bobby admits that he nearly killed Sam and the maid. When Sam protests that it wasn’t Bobby’s fault, Bobby admits that, really, it was. He was arrogant enough to think he could beat becoming vengeful and he was wrong. Calmly, Dean asks him how it feels and Bobby says it feels “like an itch you can’t scratch out.” He admits he’s rabid and they need to go after Dick themselves. He begs them to burn his flask and set him free (“and when it’s your time, go.” [snort]). Naturally, Dean gets stuck with the job. Bobby says he’ll see them “on the other side” and then Dean tosses the flask onto a charcoal fire. Bobby disappears in red light, but we don’t get to see it, just the brothers’ reactions. Because God forbid that we have, for once, an actual, honest-to-goodness, unambiguous end for Bobby. No, let’s muff that up to the bitter end.
Afterward, Dean asks Castiel (who witnessed Bobby’s “death”) to go on an “errand” with him. It turns out Dean wants to bring the Impala back into service for his plan to take out Dick. After a quiet conversation in which Castiel admits that he’s starting to see his many resurrections as punishments rather than rewards, and his presence as bad luck, Dean says he’ll take Castiel’s bad luck over nothing and rather grudgingly admits that he forgives Castiel. Mischievously, Castiel asks him what the “plan” is and, for a moment, he seems like the 2014 Castiel, Merlin to Dean’s twisted Arthur. Dean says that Dick already knows they’re coming, so they’re going in “big”.
“Big” turns out to be the Impala racing down the road in the morning rain to the tune of Steppenwolf’s “Born to Be Wild”. We see the shadows of Sam and Dean in the driver’s and shotgun seats and then the car rams through the Sucrocorp sign.
Meg gets out. Despite being shot a few times, she uses Borax and a machete to take out several guards. But then she’s knocked across the lawn by two demons in suits, who tell her that Crowley wants to see her.
Meanwhile, Castiel has transported the brothers inside, where Sam goes to rescue a tied-up Kevin and Dean has Castiel run down the various Leviathans to find which one is Dick. Kevin warns Sam about the poisoned creamers and says they need to blow up the lab. In another part of said lab, Dick is drinking the creamer while gloating over the upcoming “genocide”, while White Coat Flunky boxes up little creamer packets. While Dick’s back is turned, Dean and Castiel fly in and behead the flunky. Dick professes to be underwhelmed, saying that Dean doesn’t even know if he’s got the real Dick. Dean says he doesn’t, but Castiel does. When Castiel attacks Dick, Dick tosses him across the room, giving Dean time to stab him in the chest with the bone. It doesn’t seem to work. But just as Dick starts to gloat, Castiel comes up behind him and grabs him so that Dean can pull out another bone and stab him in the neck. That one’s the real one.
Just as Sam and Kevin rush in, Dick tries to Leviathan-mouth and then bleeds black goo in waves before exploding amid evil laughter. When the mess clears, Sam finds himself alone with Kevin. Dean and Castiel are gone.
Crowley then teleports in and has two demons grab Kevin. Crowley pauses to gloat before disappearing with Kevin, leaving Sam to clean up the mess of blowing up the lab, fending off the disorganised Leviathans (who are now apparently just ordinary monsters), and – oh, yeah – finding Castiel and his brother.
Where are they? Well, we find Dean in a very dark forest, unconscious. Castiel (all serious and deep-voiced as in the past) calls to him, “Wake up!” When a groggy Dean stands up and asks where they are, Castiel asks him if he doesn’t already know. Where would Dick go in death? Dean finally realises they’re in Purgatory. He wonders how they will get out, but Castiel says they’re more likely “to be ripped to shreds, first.” Dean turns around to see spindly creatures with glowing red eyes stalking them in the dark. When he turns back, Castiel has disappeared and Dean is left alone with the approaching monsters and the desolate sound of the wind in the trees.
Review: About two-thirds of the way through a paint-by-numbers, bloody boring, and gratuitously misogynistic season finale (right about when Ghost!Bobby sang his final aria), this episode kicked it up five or six notches and finally went to town. I’m inclined to go with the popular theory doing the rounds that Jeremy Carver stepped in and rewrote that last third because it was markedly different in style and content from the first part. In fact, it was even – dare I say it? Oh, hell, I’ll just dare – good. Sam got left on his own back on earth (well…him and every living hunter in Bobby’s address book), while Dean and Castiel were transported to Purgatory after Castiel helped Dean whack Dick. I know we’d been discussing the possibility for weeks, and that I even mentioned that Purgatory as a dangerous backroads where it’s always night is perfectly affordable on the show’s budget, but it’s one thing to speculate and quite another to have the show finally come through on a really fun premise in God only knows how long.
Now, was the episode perfect? Sadly, it wasn’t even close, though it did have a few brief, shining moments that made the episode (if not the season, alas) worth watching. But it was better by far than “Swan Song”, which just about killed off my desire to watch this show. I haven’t decided yet if I like it better than last season’s finale. Maybe, just for those last ten minutes. But first, let’s look at the not-so-good and get it out of the way.
I’m gonna start with the misogyny, for the simple reason that it was ugly and it bothered me a great deal, and I never want to see that level of woman-hating bile on this show ever again. Especially disturbing is that not only did this show go into some really nasty anti-female territory under a female showrunner, but some of the worst offenses occurred in episodes she wrote. In 7.17, it mainly showed in some of the dumbest and most extraneous Damsels in Distress in the show’s record (and that bar is set very high – or low, depending on your preferences in the game of Limbo). Here, it went a few horrible steps farther.
There is, of course, Dumb Blonde Polly. Your first red flag should probably be how Polly has a rhyming almost-namesake in Dolly the Cloned Sheep. Yes, that’s right. One of, what, four female characters that are in more than one scene of the episode and got lines was named in such a way as to emphasise that she was just meat. Good to know. Even worse? I couldn’t figure out what Polly’s origins were supposed to be and I’m fairly sure that’s because Sera Gamble wasn’t too sure, herself. Was Polly some Turduckened girl snatched off the street? Cloned from a vat? Bioengineered? There were lines in Dick’s speech to support all three conclusions. The cloudiness about Polly’s origins, including whether or not she had ever been any kind of thinking person in the first place, made it hard for me to sympathise with her, even as we were treated to a full view of her cruel and callous murder – after, of course, she took her clothes off in front of a roomful of guys (and two leering token women) in suits.
There are feminist possibilities to this idea (and we have a chilling short story coming up in June’s Innsmouth Magazine issue that explores it), but Gamble manages to miss every one of them and go straight for the lowest possible common denominator. See, Polly is being used as a demonstration guinea pig in an experiment to kill off “undesirable” humans with food additives. In short, the Leviathans have this “brilliant” (Please note the quotation marks) plan to kill off skinny humans with coffee creamer. No, really. I wish I were kidding, but that’s what the episode says. There are some other factors added on in the overhead Dick brings up (hemophilia, short people and geniuses), but the Show complete ignores this ass-covering Tell. Really, it’s all about killing off skinny humans.
If the analogy of women being meat weren’t disgusting enough, Dick has Polly take off her dress right before he injects her with poison that causes her to convulse and drop, still vacant-eyed, to the floor, dying with foam on her lips. There is no reason for Dick to have Polly strip down (We don’t need the dress off to tell that she’s skinny). The only reason for it is to give members of the audience a full, lascivious view of barely-legal Polly in her bra and panties before her nasty exit, emphasised by supposedly libidoless Dick saying, “But we’re not here to make art.” Yes, the Leviathans aren’t just killing off skinny people – they’re killing off hot chicks. O the humanity.
Excuse me while I pause to hurl. I can’t afford to ruin this computer screen.
This isn’t the first time I’ve ever seen this trope of turning the bodies of dead women, or the murders of helpless women, into objects of erotic art. In fact, I bet this isn’t the first time you’ve ever seen it, either, unless you’ve been hiding under a rock and have never seen a slasher flick or a pulp magazine cover. Even now, we have entire franchises of shows (like the CSIs and Criminal Minds) that have turned the pitiless slaughter of attractive, scantily clad young white women into an art form whereby you are expected to get your rocks off (at least, if you’re male) from some poor girl’s moment of death. When men get slaughtered in similar ways (say, in certain types of war films), guys get skeeved out by tropes like hurt/comfort and Yaoi. I can’t say that I blame them, but I get a little skeeved out myself when I point out that pretty women having drills shoved through them and being sliced up while naked in the shower are images just as skeevy – and I get a blank look, followed by: “But it’s a classic! And anyway, she was totally hot jailbait!” I don’t want to be judgemental, but anybody who thinks dead bodies are sexually attractive gets the side-eye and a quick retreat from me. I find even faux-necrophilia pretty damned creepy. And yes, I have seen Kissed. It’s still pretty damned creepy and just plain out of character for a bunch of monsters whose big thing is eating people not shagging them. But what am I saying? This is the same writer who gave us the Sam/Ruby-in-a-dead-meatsuit sex scene in “I Know What You Did Last Summer”.
You might say that we saw previous test subjects of the Leviathans who died and they weren’t young and hot. You’re right. They weren’t. And did you care about them? Nope. You didn’t. The subtext in scenes like the one where the test family keeps eating and watching eye surgery on the telly while Grandma lies dead nearby, or the stoned-out patrons in the grocery store, is that the behaviour of these folks is only slightly exaggerated for satirical effect. Fat, ugly, poor people may not be that dumb in real life, but they’re still pretty dumb – at least, according to the writers. They may not be that indifferent to the way they are being manipulated into stumbling off a cliff like a bunch of toked-up Lemmings in real life, but they’re still pretty indifferent. Even Dean’s being Turduckened is played for comic effect because – hardy-har – he’s a white-trash drifter with a GED, so he must be dumb, too. The only time we are invited to care is when the test subject is a hot chick. And even then, do we care about her brains or her compassion or her scintillating personality? No, because she doesn’t have any. All she has are her barely-legal cheerleader looks, which we’re invited to check out, guilt-free, as she goes down like a pole-axed skinny cow in a sick parody of roofie rape/murder.
This just makes the Americentrism that much more irritating. Really, if you’re going to write a story about a group of vicious, insatiable creatures invading the world from another realm, how about not equating the conquest of the United States with the assumed conquest of the other nearly-seven-billion humans on the planet? Try to be at least a little more freakin’ cosmopolitan than the mouth-breathers you’re writing about. Otherwise, it makes you look dumb.
Another major problem with the entire boardroom scene that culminates with Polly’s murder is how bland and unscary it is, not to mention very poorly thought-out-and-researched (though the fact that the entire Leviathan plot this season employed a glaringly bright colour scheme that made season three look like the gloom of a crypt doesn’t help). Never, at any moment, did I feel that this reflected anything whatsoever of the writer’s fears. I said in the comments section a few weeks back that I still had no idea what scared Sera Gamble because her scripts never reflected her fears. I do have a pretty good idea of what turns her on, though. Which is fine if you’re writing romantic dramas for the Lifetime Network but not when you’re writing for a horror show that is a commentary on the entire genre. This is probably why so many fans have complained about her “fangirl” fantasies. Is that sexist? Yeah, it is. But it has some truth to it. Essentially, Gamble seems to be tapping into the wrong part of her subconscious for this show and, therefore, writing in entirely the wrong genre. This is not paranormal romance. It’s not even dark fantasy. It’s horror. And she should be writing about what scares her not what gets her rocks off.
What scares women often also scares the hell out of men (to the point where some guys really can’t hack feminist horror, at all, especially when they take it personally). Margaret Atwood’s novel, The Handmaid’s Tale, may be a very cautionary story for women about allowing ourselves to lose our hardwon rights to extremists, but the narrator still survives. It’s her husband who ends up a doornail in the forest, murdered so that some rich guy can have his pretty, fertile wife. “The Screwfly Solution” by Raccoona Sheldon (AKA James Tiptree Jr.) is a horror story about how aliens introduce something into the ecosystem that causes men to murder women, but it’s the men who are turned into violent zombies that kill everyone they love.
There is none of this fear in “Survival of the Fittest”. Nor is there any real political horror and certainly no ethnic horror. You wouldn’t know from this entire season that most of the rich 1% being satirised are white. Token minorities like Kevin and Susan just muddy the waters. We have Edgar who is Hispanic and the possessed maid who is Hispanic, yet no one ever comments on this. What, nothing whatsoever about using illegal immigrants to go back over the border and take down Mexico for the Leviathans? And why are the Leviathans even bothering to kill off skinny blonde girls who can at least make more human babies when you’d think they would target gays first? Plenty of room for topical horror and satire there, and it would absolutely make sense for the Leviathans to target the entire LGBT community, even for them to gobble up and copy right-wing corporate stooges to do it. Not to mention that Crowley is openly gay, while Gamble has pointedly made Dean and Castiel’s friendship as stereotypically gay as she could, and these are characters whom the Leviathan openly despise. It would have made all kinds of sense to make the Leviathans homophobic.
You’ll find none of that here because the writers simply don’t care. Take, for example, the map that Dick throws up onto the overhead in the meeting, dividing up the country according to things like “Livestock”, “Testing”, “Labor”, and “Breeding”. It’s sheer meanness to make the entire southern part of the United States “Livestock” (and I’m pretty sure it never occurred to the writers that this is also a part of the U.S. with a high percentage of African-Americans and Hispanics). It makes no sense to have the entire western half “Labor”. Aside from California and parts of the Pacific Northwest, that’s a largely unpopulated and non-industrial area, still. Where’s the labour? Also, it makes no sense for the entire Midwest and Northeast be for “Testing”, and why make Florida, which has a high percentage of non-fertile retirees, the only area for “Breeding”? Unsurprisingly, Dick simply ignores Alaska and Hawaii, considering the unimaginative way the Lower 48 is divided up. The only mildly interesting part of the map is that Canada and Mexico are slated for “Future Development”, indicating that Dick intended to weasel out of his deal with Crowley all along.
Maybe the writers should have spent more time working out the motives and modus operandi of their Big Bads, and less on coming up with dumb jokes about the name “Dick”.
But the episode is not done with the misogyny and idiotic motivations, not at all. We haven’t yet gotten to the puir, stereotypical, Hispanic maid that Bobby possessed last week (That gagging you may hear is Silvia’s). Oh, Lordie. I do have to give props to the actress, who did a very good job in switching back and forth between terrified and coldly angry. She definitely got across the idea of being possessed. But the way this was dealt with in the script was far too cavalier. Apparently, if you’re the ghost of a good guy and you possess some innocent, it’s somehow not as bad as if you are the ghost of a sociopathic school bully (and even then we got a freakin’ sob backstory). Repeatedly possessing her and dragging her body from pillar to post, as she screams and begs for mercy, isn’t a really unpleasant horror metaphor for supernatural rape at all. And you only cross the line when you try to choke out the writer’s favourite character. You’re just…you know…desperate to do your part, so what you’re doing is understandable if not completely excusable.
No, I’m sorry, but it’s not. Not understandable and not excusable.
I’ll come right out and say it – killing Bobby off repeatedly was a terrible idea. Right up there with making Sam soulless. First of all, they didn’t need to Mary-Sue him up to nauseating levels in the first nine episodes (Since when can Bobby shoot down something up a tree in the dark in “How to Win Friends and Influence Monsters” when “Sin City” shows him barely able to shoot a possessed human standing all of ten or twenty feet away under a streetlight?). Second, if they were going to kill him, they should have done it -WHAM! – and then moved on to showing the brothers dealing with it. Not this crap where he got an entire pseudo-clips episode to wander around his own brain, whinging to himself, and then still came back later on as a ghost. If they’d killed him off in that cliffhanger for 7.09, I’d have missed him, but I’d have remembered him fondly. By the time we got to the season finale, I was chanting to Dean, “Toss it in! Toss it in!” when Bobby was urging Dean to torch his flask. And it was especially annoying that Bobby gave it one last college try to blame it all on the brothers for not burning his flask. Hmm. They salted and burned his bones. Pretty sure that if they had burned the flask early on, just to be sure, he’d have attached himself to something else. And they needed those books for research. Take the blame like a man, Bobby, even if you haven’t been one in a while.
To add a final insult, we got sappy Amazing Stories music throughout that scene and then we didn’t even see him go up in fiery smoke.
Oh, yeah, and the nun “boning” jokes? What the hell, show?
Somewhat a save in the female character department was Meg getting to drive the Impala and kill Leviathans. Sure, some fans weren’t thrilled that she was inducted into the Fraternity of the Blessed Transportation, but I greatly preferred that to Dean once again having his IQ reduced to negative numbers for the sake of some awesome entrance that would have gotten anyone else killed. Instead, it was a feint so that Dean and the others could slip inside – and then we got another feint when Dean stuck Dick with a false bone in order to distract him long enough to stick him with the real one. I’ll trade a grand-but-futile entrance in for a sneaky-and-successful attack any time.
Speaking of bad guys who are sometimes good guys, meh on Crowley. Here’s a hint, show – when you have to dumb down your heroes to give a bad guy any kind of advantage, you need to upgrade or write out the bad guy. Crowley is small potatoes. He’ll always be small potatoes; it’s the way he’s designed. His whole character is defined by his reach exceeding his grasp, of his being a low villain who thinks he’s a Big Bad. Even now that he’s King of Hell, the crown lies very uneasy on his head because he knows, deep down, he’s unworthy of the position and has established a precedent that other, equally unworthy demons could follow. The speculations of some fans that he is not a demon, that he could be Gabriel in disguise or even God, only underline the reality that he doesn’t work as a Big Bad. If he needs that kind of bolstering, then he’s playing well out of his league. Characters who do this must inevitably fall. It’s the classic story of hubris that Castiel underwent earlier this season.
Dick has the opposite problem. His goals are too small for the leader of the most terrifying monsters who ever lived, who were locked away in Purgatory so that they couldn’t eat up the “entire Petri dish”. The writers this past season have invited us to be terrified by the Biggest Big Bads Evah…and then given us The Knights Who Say ‘Ni’ (“We want…a SHRUBBERY!”). What is especially nonsensical is the idea that pampered rich people in suits and corporate rooms are actually powerful in and of themselves. Essentially, they aren’t. Their power derives from other people using them to make money and vice versa (and the sickness of our society is that too many selfish and idiotic elements in the other 99% are quite happy to support them because they want to be in the 1%).
But events like the Wall Street Crash of 1929 (let alone Stage IV cancer or a mugger’s bullet) show how ephemeral that power is. Why would the Leviathans decide that the best way to take over the world with humans as a sustainable food supply (and why only humans? Why not eat dogs, cats, chickens, horses, elephants, maggots, etc.?) is for their leader to eat some corporate slimeball, run for President, and buy out a company that makes food additives so that it can invent chemicals that make people stupid? Why not just eat the people they need to copy? Why even bother to stay under the radar when they can’t be killed and can barely be contained? If Dick wants to be President, why doesn’t he just eat the President? If the Leviathans want to quietly farm humans, why not copy and eat farmers and others in the food industry? Why did Dick need to use such human means to manipulate other humans when he and his species had so many abilities that could allow them to cut right through the red tape? How did they even become so highly socialised after aeons in what looks like one big, dark jungle full of predators?
And last but not least on Dick, pick a different friggin’ expression, sometimes, Fearless Leader! Making a demon deal? Grimace. Injecting a helpless young girl with a deadly compound that kills her in seconds? Grimace. Getting taken by surprise and killed like the preternatural roach that you are? Grimace. Good Lord. Boring, much? Not even ripped-from-the-headlines gross-outs about baby sushi can make this guy scary.
Now, let’s talk Purgatory, easily the best part of the episode (Hell, I’d say the season, but “Time After Time” was pretty damned good) and the part that everyone is talking about. That last scene was truly dark and chilling, and I was all for it. Aside from the complaints from the usual suspects about how Sam and Dean weren’t together (and how dire things shall occur if they’re not reunited next season, pronto, by God!), it was surprising how strongly positive was the reaction in the fandom, across various discussion boards. Fans who had bashed the rest of the season finally perked up and talked about wanting to see a season eight. No, the overnight demo wasn’t so hot (though it may rise in the final), but the ratings of an episode have more to do with audience opinion of the previous week (and the after-episode buzz for “There Will Be Blood” was pretty bad) than of an episode they haven’t seen yet and, therefore, must decide to tune into based on the previous week and promos they may or may not like. Bottom line – between the recent renewal/announcement of next season’s move to Wednesdays and the positive buzz for the cliffhanger, the show is going into the summer Hellatus in excellent shape.
What was so great about this last scene (It was very nice to see Dean outsmart Dick and get the kill against him, especially with the help of Castiel who needed some redemption, but the scene itself was kinda bleah) was how it introduced a brand-new environment loaded with potentially great plots. Is it possible to screw up Dean and Castiel being stuck in Purgatory? Yes. For a start, I think it would be a very, very, very, very, VERY bad idea for the writers to forget show canon in the face of their new enthusiasm about this new venue for stories and use it as an excuse to bring back every character that ever died. Show canon has endured quite enough buggery in the past three seasons:
Good way to do it: Dean has killed an awful lot of monsters and they’re all in Purgatory. Anyone from Gordon to Madison to several shapeshifters, to Amy and Emma could show up (Okay, I’d rather not see Amy again, ever). If the writers pick a few oldies-but-goodies (and maybe some new characters) for Dean to run from/fight against, it could be lots of fun.
Bad way to do it: Season six explicitly separated the SPNverse into five realms: Heaven, Earth, Hell, Purgatory, and Faerie (and only Dean has been to all five). Earth is the big crossroads. Like Rick’s, everybody comes there if they can. Demons frequently escape Hell; fairies travel over from Faerie if they can sucker some human to make a deal. No human souls return from Heaven unless the angels give permission (and there seem to be some backdoor deals involving temporary raising of ghosts). No human souls return from Faerie and if they do, they’re quickly retrieved if at all possible. Purgatory is almost impossible to exit. Basically, someone has to open a door from earth for someone from Purgatory to escape and the spell is not easy to do.
Human souls are the only ones that can change their nature and also go from Earth to another place as part of the Reaper exchange. Once they reach their destination, that is their permanent home. This means that demons can clamber back up to Earth and possess live humans, but when exorcised, they don’t go to Heaven or Purgatory; they just return to Hell. When killed by the Sparkly Spork o’ Doom or the Colt (and, probably, angel fire), they simply cease to exist. Angels don’t have souls, so when they are killed, they just die, too. Is it possible there is yet another realm where those that have been killed permanently in the known realms end up? Sure. But it ain’t Purgatory. Purgatory is for monster souls.
We know this for two reasons – one is that Eve’s motives in season six only make sense if she only received monster souls in Purgatory. Why bother to make monsters that will monsterise a bunch of weak-ish human souls when you have the power to whack angels and demons right and left, then watch them be ferried off to your realm to add to your overall power, also draining off the power of your rival realms (though Heaven with its 100 billion souls continues to be pretty untouchable by anyone else, even individual angels)? Two is that Eve clearly stated she was the Mother of all monsters, creating each one via Alpha monsters. Angels have no Alpha. Neither do demons. And neither do ghosts. Therefore, they can’t be monsters that are Purgatory-bound because only monsters that came from Eve (and Leviathans) are sent to Purgatory. God made angels and humans. Lucifer made demons. And ghosts are just the lost souls of humans who wouldn’t leave earth after their bodies died. They have no connection to Eve or Purgatory.
This means that characters like Bobby, Gabriel, Raphael, Azazel, Alastair, Lilith, Molly, Mary, John, the Phoenix, Jo, Ellen, Ash, or Lenore have no business being in Purgatory unless Carver & Co. decide to masticate canon even more, because they have either ceased to exist (per Death’s statement in “Appointment in Samarra” that nothing, including souls, is truly immortal) or belong to other realms. There’s nothing preventing the Leprechaun or the other fairies from popping in, though. Whether the dead Alphas might show up there is open to interpretation. Hell hounds? Well…we’re not sure what Hell hounds are. But since it’s only really possible to kill them using the Spork or by one eating the other, they’re probably not in Purgatory. Dick really shouldn’t be there, either. If he’s black oil that escaped from Purgatory and that essence then died on the earth, he has no soul that can flee back to Purgatory. That black oil was the equivalent of his soul.
Incidentally, if the Leviathans are insatiable and can eat each other permanently, and Purgatory is full of creatures hunting each other for eternity, how did the other monsters keep from being eaten? I’m guessing that Eve was the head Leviathan before she was killed and rode herd on the others to protect her “children”. This would explain both Dick’s weirdly conservationist approach to eating humans and Edgar’s bitterness about Eve (Crowley guessed that Dick had always been the Leviathans’ leader, but he wouldn’t actually know for sure). In essence, Eve may have done exactly the same thing with her monsters versus the other Leviathans as God did with humans versus angels – protecting the weaker group by forcing the stronger group to keep their hands off. And we all know how well that went down with the angels.
Really bad way to do it: Dean and Castiel spend most of their time in Purgatory randomly encountering dead monster characters and drifting off into clips recaps of greatest hits from old episodes. No action occurs.
Good way to do it: Dean and Castiel could be stuck in Purgatory for a while, with Sam back on earth, “alone”. Properly drawn out, this could give all three characters a fair bit of time for growth. Sam could be turning into NuBobby by organising and talking to Hunters to try to rescue Kevin and send Crowley back to Hell with his barbed tail between his legs (or kill him outright). Dean could become even more feral and perhaps get a perverse kick out of rediscovering his Inner Badass in the Ultimate Hunt. Castiel could slowly redeem himself with Dean and rediscover his inner balance (as well as, perhaps, his faith in God). A season of this would probably be too long. A half-season would be okay, but it might strain the budget and the patience of some fans. A six-episode cycle would be nice, though.
Bad way to do it: Dean and Castiel are rescued within the first episode or two – even worse, within the teaser. Sure, the opening to “Lazarus Rising” was awesome, but that only works once.
Really bad way to do it: A super-convenient time jump that leapfrogs over the issue completely and starts the season with Dean and Castiel back on earth, already. Talk about a waste of a really good premise.
Good way to do it: After a twisted journey down the charcoal brick road, Dean and Castiel figure out how to break out of Purgatory, with maximum carnage. Maybe even with some help from Sam and his new friends on the other side.
Bad way to do it: Sam breaks Dean and Castiel out of Purgatory and, in the process, rediscovers his Inner Sammy Stu, along with a hot new demon girlfriend. Dean and Castiel spend the rest of the season alternately feeling guilty about Sam’s awesome non-sacrifice and resenting him for being a pompous jackass about it/worry that he’s going dark…again.
Really bad way to do it: God rescues them and they pop back onto earth on a Greyhound bus headed to Albuquerque, with no explanation ever given.
So, a lot depends on how things go with the new showrunner and whatever motley writing crew he gathers together – not to mention that ideas alone won’t cut it. Sera Gamble had several very good ideas, but the execution was pedestrian and linear at best, and slow, boring and sometimes offensive, at worst. If Carver blows it, he blows it. We won’t know how he does until he gets in there and writes a season. Since I was wishing he’d take over from Kripke as early as season five, I’m one of those who don’t see what we have to lose.
Fun lines:
Sam: We could call Castiel again.
Dean: Dude, on my car. He showed up naked, covered in bees!
Sam: Sister Mary Constant: 83 years of quiet, humble, nun-like goodness. What do you think?
Dean: Wow. I wanna be more righteous just reading this.
Meg: You deal with him. I can’t, anymore.
Dean: You might want to be more specific.
Meg: I was laying low halfway across the world, when Emo Boy pops up out of nowhere and zaps me right back here.
Dean: Why?
Meg: Go ask him. He was your boyfriend first.
Dean: Okay, Cas, what’s up?
Castiel: Well, Dean, I’ve been thinking: Monkeys are so clever and they’re sensible in that they leave the skins on the bananas that they eat. Is it really necessary to test cosmetics on them? I mean, how important is lipstick to you, Dean?
Dean: Not very.
Castiel: Do we need a cat? Doesn’t this place feel one species short?
Dean: We can’t “leave it.” You let these friggin’ things in. So, you don’t get to make a sandwich. You don’t get a damned cat. Nobody cares that you’re broken, Cas. Clean up your mess!
Castiel: You know, we should play Twister. [flies off]
Meg: Nice. You scared off the Empire’s only hope.
Castiel: If we attack Dick and fail, then you and Sam die heroically, correct?
Dean: I don’t know. I guess.
Castiel: And at best, I die trying to fix my own stupid mistake or don’t die, brought back again. I see, now, it’s a punishment resurrection. It gets worse every time.
Dean: I’m sorry. We’re talking about God crap, right?
Castiel: I’m not good luck, Dean.
Dean: Yeah, well, you know what? Bottom of the ninth, you’re the only guy left on the bench – sorry, but I’d rather have you. Cursed or not. And anyway, nut up. We’re all cursed. I seem like good luck to you? [off Castiel's smile] What?
Castiel: I don’t want to make you uncomfortable, but I detect a note of forgiveness.
Kevin [to Sam]: Dick’s got creamer in the lab. He’s gonna kill all the skinny people!
Dick: Did you really think you could Trump me?
Dean: Honestly? No. [stabs him in the neck as Castiel grabs Dick from behind] Figured we’d have to catch you off-guard.
Next Week: Folsom Prison Blues: Enter the dark and scary woods of Purgatory – sorry, Summer Hellatus – with me as we retro recap from here to October, starting with a prison classic from season two.
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Thanks for the recap Paula! In fact thanks for all the recaps this season – not sure I could have stomached having to review and dissect some of the stinkers we have been subjected to this year.
As for the episode, I couldn’t agree with you more. The misogyny was off the charts. Ghost!Bobby was just horrible and ultimately pointless (I mean other than the odd nudge in the right direction he never actually helped out in any way that I can recall, and he stole Dean’s beer that time, how rude), unless the point was just to complete a character assassination that started some time ago. Who knows, perhaps the writing is in fact so sophisticated and avant-garde that none of use really gets it *holds up a sarcasm sign*.
But I enjoyed the ending. I have some reservations about Crowley and his future role, but I still like the character (or maybe I just like Mark Sheppard) enough to hope that a new show runner can do something interesting with him. I am happy the brothers are separated, I think they could both do with it (I would really like to see Sam working with Jodie and some of the other hunters tbh) and hope we get a few episodes at least before they meet up again. I love the idea of Dean and Cas in purgatory. I NEED to see these two fighting like badasses to survive there – I wouldn’t mind seeing them go a bit feral before Sam gets them out. I am sure it will be Sam that gets them out, and that’s fine so long as Dean gets to kick some ass in the mean time.
Speaking of time have we ever been told if time moves differently in purgatory like it does in Hell?
Anyway I am looking forward to next season – I’m feeling pretty hopeful, let’s see what Carver can do!
Thanks again Paula.
I was so anxious to read your review of this finale and; particularly, your evaluation of the possibilities brought up for S8. I liked ‘the good, the bad, and the ugly’ approach you took. I, too, hope that there is at least a six-episode arc of the two (or four) characters separated. I took note that Sam was left with Kevin and Dean was left with Cas.
The best thing this episode did was take Dean in Purgatory. I have no idea what will be done with that, but it’s the first really interesting thing I have seen in a finale in years.
I wonder if Kevin is there to catch the attention of the younger women demo. He doesn’t excite or offend me. He’s just there and kind of boring. I didn’t think he, Bobby, Meg, or Polly really had to be in the episode, but they were.
On the episode itself: Yes, Dean’s righteous man, Phoenix blood, and man of all realms, I think, are forgotten and gone.
I found this to be a typical SG episode. I am so glad she is gone and, I hope, never to be heard from again in the SPNverse.
The whole Levi mytharc didn’t work, because it was nothing more than political and social commentary, and that is not horror. There was no investment in the Levi by Sam and Dean, nothing personal to them in that political/social commentary and; therefore, no investment in them by me. Instead of being connected to the Winchesters, the pathetically poor Levi plan was global (well, no so much global as it was focused on the ills of the U.S. I hope Carver does away with that kind of shit. I hope, instead, he makes the writers do their jobs…having their writing deliver on such things as plotting, pacing, characterization, canon, and a storyline for each lead. I have no interest in their political views and am quite capable of determining my own without their weekly input, thank you very much. I want a story that the Winchesters are invested in, so that I can buy into their season’s journey without getting pissed off every week.
You were exactly right, Paula, in saying that the writers have completely forgotten or ignored their own canon about Eve. Eve was the mother of all monsters and the Leviathan, and last week Edgar said that to the Alpha Vamp. Not only that, the show has clearly established that Purgatory is for monsters souls; angels reside in Heaven, as do ‘good’ human souls; and demons, as well as the souls of ‘bad’ humans go to Hell.
You know, I don’t think that cabin the brothers have been in the last two weeks is supposed to be Rufus’s cabin, unless it’s supposed to be because they lost a previous location site. Nothing about that cabin looks the same as the Rufus one. I thought it was just some hidden shack in the middle of nowhere (wi-vi included, of course) they were camped out in.
That thing about pouring the blood on the handle of the bone, instead of the pointy end, really continues to bug me. Out of the whole episode, that is the thing that jumped out and screamed ‘sloppy mistake.’ I don’t know why Bob Singer didn’t catch or change that. Otherwise, I thought Singer did a great job with the episode and gave us a lot of interesting shots.
Bobby: Dear God, I hope he is FINALLY gone for good. I feel the same way you do about him; I could have still liked the character, but I don’t anymore. How in the world did they manage to ruin so many good past characters — Bobby, Crowley and Meg?
The Impala: When I first say the promo clip, I was upset that Dean wasn’t more connected to her. After seeing the episode, though, I was pleased that she got her own spot and we got to see all of her shiny beauty from every angle. Thank you, Singer, for those nice shots. I sure hate that she was crashed immediately again, though, after all the early season episodes of Dean putting Baby back together. I hope we see lots of her and Dean in S8 (and not Sam driving her all over the country).
Cas: Everyone knows I’m not thrilled with Cas and was hoping he would go away. I did like his and Dean’s scenes together, but there was stuff I didn’t understand. Did Cas acknowledge his guilt in killing Bobby in the scene where he was sitting on the stairs? Is there some significance to him viewing his many resurrections as punishment and his presence as bad luck?
Mostly, I think we’re supposed to see Dean as having forgiven Cas. He may have, but I haven’t. I didn’t like the FruitLoopCas, and I have no idea which Cas he is supposed to be now. I’m not going to get all hung up on the fact that he will play a significant role (probably) in S8, but I feel the same way about him as I do Sam now — the character will have to come a long way before I have any investment in him again. Again, I did think Misha and Jensen played off each other really well in this episode. I like the eye sex.
Meg: I’m glad she’s dead, and I hope we’re done with her. I see her character, Bobby’s, and Cas’s as characters that were ruined. I saw no real need for her, Bobby, or Kevin in the last two episodes. Kevin was about as useful as Polly in this one. The GhostBobby story should have never been conceived, and Meg was really stale this season.
Crowley: Although I do like Crowley, and Mark Shepherd continues to eat up scenes, I completely agree with your assessment on Crowley’s character. I wonder, though, if he will; in fact, be the big bad in S8 and whether he’ll be used all that much. Personally, I’m for bringing in new, interesting characters and be just done with the old ones.
I can’t even guess what is planned for S8, but the possibilities are there. In the meantime, I’m just going to enjoy your retro reviews and not even speculate. I continue to be interested in what will be said at Comic Con. I am pinning so much hope on Carver, am willing to give him time to fix the mess SG has made, but I have set a bottom line, and that is if Dean doesn’t get a story in S8, I’m done. I really enjoy JA’s work, but fatigue has set in after seven years.
BTW, if the show holds to tradition, Carver should write 8.01. I’m really excited about that.
Wow, Paula, that was a freakin’ fantastic recap and review. Great work — it really hit everything I would wish to see said.
I don’t articulate the “rules” of who may show up in Purgatory in the same way, and I won’t be upset if we see some greatest-hit demons and angels there. I’ll be ticked if we *mainly* see demons and angels, but I don’t go past that. Even before SG the show had a long tradition of tweaking elements, and I personally see the dead-angel-and-demon question as a minor tweak at best. They go somewhere, it’s not back to their own realms, it’s probably not Faerie. It wouldn’t rank anywhere near SG greatest-hit face-palmers like “Balls! PURE iron!” and “I’m the KING of hell, you don’t know WHICH rules apply.”
But I’m not going to argue much with anyone about Purgatory until I know for sure that it won’t be completely moot after episode 8.2. And I agree with most of your general prescriptions for using Purgatory well or badly.
It really excites me that: Sam got left in a situation that seems designed for meaningful personal growth. Dean got left in a situation that seems designed for an excellent yarn.
So I really hope they haven’t set up this excellent potential, just to blow it. But I take heart that virtually all of the fans are so united in *seeing* this potential.
Us non-pros, we hear “Supernatural, Film Noir” and it doesn’t conjure our imaginations much. “Supernatural, Butch & Sundance” conjures even less, except for assuming they’ll go down in a hail of bullets. What the hell do those even mean?
As it turns out, Film Noir meant lurking villain Cas and mismanaged gumshoe Dean. And it turns out that Butch & Sundance means “we seriously have no idea what we are doing and have COMPLETELY lost the plot in every conceivable way. Have some more Bobby.”
But Everyfan has an immediate grasp on what it means for Dean to be in Purgatory and for Sam to be alone, topside. Just like Everyfan had an immediate grasp on what Dean/Hell Sam/Topside could mean. The fanfic this summer will be epic. (And immediately moot, but oh well. There were some fun “Sam saves Dean from Hell” stories back in the day, and a whole “Sam becomes the King of Hell for Dean” subgenre.)
It doesn’t really matter if we fans can’t guess what will happen. It only really matters if Carver, who I assume was the main force behind this, grasps the potential of his own concept.
When a good writer grasps their own ideas’ potential (and/or listens to others’ excellent input) then good and satisfying stories will come of it.
When a writer does NOT grasp their own ideas’ potential, it’s a snowballing disaster. I’d submit that this seems to be one of Sera’s tragic flaws; under her the show never fully capitalized on *any* cool idea. S6 and S7 have dozens of ideas that could have been so much coooler. Godstiel. The Levi. Dean as Death’s gumshoe. The Campbells. Mother of All. Hallucifer. Faerie. Even Soulless Sam and Domestic Dean.
Every one of those concepts has so much more potential than they were ever allowed to show.
Just once, I’d like to see Supernatural get back to picking up on, say, 50% of its own potential.
While I’m dreaming big, I would also like Dean’s status as the only character to travel to every known realm of his universe and even become Death to *matter*, someday. If I were Show, I would make that my grand finale since killing him will never feel final.
While I’m dreaming moderately, I don’t think they *needed* to test whether Jensen/Misha chemistry could carry the whole show if Jared ever bows out. But I think it’s interesting that they set it up that way.
Well, from everything I’ve read, the episode was horrible except for the last 10 or so minutes. I have to say, the setup sounds really good to me. I’m actually interested in next season. I still don’t think I’m going to bother with this episode, but I’ll definitely watch when the show comes back.
You made some very good points about the canon of Pergatory, Paula, and I hope that Carver remembers them. I really don’t want Dean and Cas meeting everyone in the history of ever during thier stay. I’ve been seeing a lot of people hyped up on John! Mary! Bobby! Lenore!, and I have to say that I don’t share their squee. I’d prefer for Carver to leave the past in the past, and create new threats, new characters. And I’d love to see Sam realizing how difficult it is, being the one to wear the big-boy pants. I want Sam to be shown doing some serious growing. I want him to deal with the consequences of his decisions. After all, he’s got no-one else available to push blame off on, so it could be good for him. And I know you like Meg, but I don’t want her appearing for a good while, if at all, next season. I really don’t want Sam to go the usual route of trying to pair up with the monster, and I can see that happening much too easily. Sam wants to be treated as a grown up, so let him earn the right. And who knows, maybe Dean’s sojourn in Pergatory could serve to cleanse him and help him recapture his love of life and hunting. I’d love to see feral Dean, but I also want Dean-Dean, not this emotional mess of a depressed, alcoholic, burnt-out shell we’ve gotten for the past two years. I want Sam to grow up, and Dean to reclaim himself.
Here’s hoping.
Sorry for spamming, Paula, but does anyone know the original ending for this episode, before the rewrite? I’d be interested in that.
I’ve read a few times that there was a script re-write. Is this just rumor, or did someone from the show actually state that?
Disappointed the righteous mortal wasn’t Dean. Really, why did Dick even care about killing the Winchesters if there wasn’t something special about one of them? Not like they could actually do anything to him until he decided to dig up the tablet. And Sam and Dean totally forgetting that they can summon Crowley into a devil’s trap is really annoying, especially since Gamble also wrote the episode where they first did that. Do the leviathan make people dumber just by existing on Earth or what?
I thought Polly was supposed to be Claire Novak when she first appeared. Would have been more interested in Dick bringing her (and Amelia) there hoping to screw with Castiel than the gross and pointless stripping/death of some random girl.
It’ll be interesting to see how the Purgatory story plays out. Hoping Sam will team up with Jody, they worked pretty well together when they last met. And why wouldn’t Lenore be in Purgatory when she’s a vampire?
Hi paula. Very nice review. I enjoy being just a fan who at times am able to just be thankful for the good and ignore the mediocre and the bad. I also thought the ending suggested Carver. Didn’t they push back production as well as announce his involvement before this episode started filming. If so thank goodness.
Sure cas covered in bees is a great image and I am sure misha would have been happy to oblige. I just thought the line was throwaway. In fact that car scene felt throwaway which is tragic considering how important a plot point the bone was. They way they glossed over the bone (and Dean’s line about her bone making him want to be righteous ) Makes me feel that she deliberately screwed over Dean, Canon and fans.
The Leviathans were not scary, the plot was awful and their evil plan was ridiculous. Sg seemed unable to let it be. The more dick prattled on the more ridiculous it seemed. And poorly reasearched….
Medical attitudes and information about obesity have changed tremendously. Obesity is a symptom of a metabolic dysfunction or disease, often triggered by dietary factors relating to modern food production. Corn syrup is in everything and the modern diet is too Carb dependent. This really trumps DNA. Yes some tendencies are hardwired in our DNA. After years of eating a ‘healthy’ diet, and cuttng out processed food to no avail– I was getting sicker with stats more out of whack than before. I recently had genetic testing and discovered that I have the nutritional needs of a caveman. I am under doctors orders to eat meat meat meat eggs fish, a little greens, very little added fat, avoid dairy and 1 serving of carbs (this includes apples, lentils,many vegetables and whole grains). Severe IBS immediately cleared up and blood pressure is dropping. I have lost 12 pounds and hope that as I continue all of my stats will normalize again. Strange but true. I highly recommend having a gp that embraces functional medicine.
Anyone eating the modern diet with heavy reliance on processed food will wreck their metabolism and gain weight. No need to kill skinny people. Modern food production and Making them lazy should do it. Polly was an unnecessary weird fetish from sg. Why waste food. Snack on the short and smart immediately.
Does the prurient sexualization of corpses start with giallo …. at least it is artful in d’argento.
“Merlin to Dean’s twisted Arthur.” I love this line! Thank you.
Since I had the luxury to focus on the good and interesting … yeah Dean! He was smart. He was the leader. He got the kill. He burnt the flask. He helped cas man up. Sam got the usual wtf save that sg writes to give the character something to do and to pander to fans.
What were sg’s good ideas again?… hard to remember …. I am not sure it is a good idea if she is unable to run with it or understand why it is good.
Regarding the contract between dick and Crowley … I thought I detected a sly smile on Crowley’s part at the end of negotiations which told me he had his loophole, whatever it was. And of course the loophole may be he is not a crossroads demon really. Also I have seen the archangels samael and metatron named as being possible true identities for Crowley as well as gabriel. These also are viable. Samael in particular because he is depicted as variously good and bad, and associated with Lilith in some Biblical texts. I understand your point as well Paula. The way the writing has been…. fans like me may well be grasping at pretty straws to make sense of nonsense. Ah well … still fun.
I have seen a lot of talk that Bobby will be in purgatory. I think that this is maybe not so crazy, and possibly likely since the show has never really spelled out what happens to ghosts. Perhaps souls that refuse their reaper become monsters and lose their humanity. After all, God created purgatory not Eve. John is a further stretch but his soul escaped hell where he was destined to go because of his deal. If he refuses to return to hell is it similar to refusing your reaper? We have been told that no one knows what happens to ghosts. Therefore there is no clear canon.
Now what drives me batty is that folks are excited because they want bobby thats to ride out with Dean. What! Does that mean possess Dean! He turned vengeful folks…. this is the crazy talking. He would still be bobby the vengeful ghost. The only way bobby on earth will work is for him to be resurrected. Not saying I like this idea. I agree with Paula et al. That he has worn out his welcome. However his ghost essence returning is stupid. Sadly I think resurrection is very likely since cas pointedly watched the flask burning with despair and shame.
Also people are hating cas for leaving Dean at the end. I understood cas to be well again and he did one of his reconnaissance zaps without explaination to Dean. He will be back. Crowley did not snatch him (hello… eclipse, special blood, spell required ) and he did not leave Dean to go and be with Sam (the craziest idea I have ever seen; both in terms of being out of character and impossible according to Canon (ECLIPSE, SPECIAL BLOOD, SPELL!). Yeah … the Sam and cas road show makes soooo much sense?!! The thought of Dean almost certainly getting his own story *and the fact it is a crazy fun story to boot* is killing some fans. Anyhow short of God pulling strings which would be boring, the only other possible way to get them out – that i can think of- might be if ash has improved his string theory prowess to open a door from heaven to purgatory. After all there appear to be little to no angels to stop him from opening a door. And since he seems to be able to quantify Dean’s essence he might find them without letting anyone else out of the bag.
Like you I certainly hope that Dean and cas stay there for several episodes, and will have changed in ways that I can’t foresee. They certainly could run into a monster or two he put there. Please lord not Amy.
It would be nice for Sam to grow up. I hope he focuses on clean-up and trying to find out about Dean. I don’t want him to save Dean. How can he? Anyway Dean is the one with connections and clout with the supernatural. Dean is the one that thinks outside the box. Sam was a puppet of lucifer, yed, and ruby. Stay away from demons, demon blood and Lucifer Sam.
For the same reasons stay away from Crowley. It makes no sense for sam to go after kevin unless he needs translation. Crowley is in a position of power over Sam. No unnecessary risks Sam.
Some idjits are saying now that Dean is gone Sam can drink demon blood and get really powerful like he should be. Please…not…again. I still like your idea of Sam growing to be a more balanced Bobby.
Dean in purgatory was really horrific. I think we are getting horror again. Who knows, time may flow differently there. Dean and cas will be altered. We may get our dark Dean and a really badass cas. I can see those to sliding into a beautiful rhythm with each other, knowing their respective strengths, weaknesses and quirks.
How has Dean done all of these things, been to all of the dimensions, killed these powerful beings… yet we have been told its meaningless. Hopefully the choice to include the final frontier for Dean, purgatory, will lead to some resolution.
Pretty darn excited.
“It would be nice for Sam to grow up. I hope he focuses on clean-up and trying to find out about Dean. I don’t want him to save Dean. How can he? Anyway Dean is the one with connections and clout with the supernatural. Dean is the one that thinks outside the box. Sam was a puppet of lucifer, yed, and ruby. Stay away from demons, demon blood and Lucifer Sam.”
I totally agree, but Sam can’t grow until he is back with Dean. He needs to show his brother that he really is changed and Sam has been apart from Dean before and it never changed anything. He needs to face his brother before he can grow. And I hope Sam doesn’t go back the dark route. Ih can do that safely with Dean, but on his own he just be demon fodder again.
And yes, he needs to stay away from Crowley. Sam can’t deal with demons and will always get himself into trouble. As for Kevin, don’t see how he can help Sam and Kevin is wil Crowely so he’s off limits to Sam. Don’t know who Sam will find to work with, but here’s hoping he doesn’t do bhis depressed rutine again and not even try to help Dean.
I’m wondering if Rufus will surface in Purgatory. Would love for him to be back too.
As for Bobby ‘riding’ Dean out…where do these people get this stuff. Dean and Bobby and Cas and everyone else in Purgatory are now on the same plane. Bobby can’r ride Dean any more that Dean can ride Bobby. Besides Bobby wouldn’t do that to Dean
Just wanted to say it’s not Bobby’s fault he was written badly of late. Silly misguided sg.
@castiel’scat
No it isn’t. Bobby has fallen victim to the same character assassination that the boys have. And just because SG wrote Bobby that way, no reason to think Carver will.
I don’t want anyone to have to eat their boots or leave the series because Bobby is back, but I can say, the main leads wants Collins and Beaver as regulars, or at least regular guest stars. JA especially wants Beaver on the series, so I would be VERY surprised if Bobby wasn’t back early next season.
Season 8 is supposed to be repairing fan relations so if they bring back fan favs, that’s fine. And if it doesn’t work for the series, they know now they only have 13 episodes in s9 anyway. But if it brings fans back, and repairs some of the damage EK/SG have done than maybe they will get a full s9 and a s10.
Good review Paula. And yes, I totally agree, Carver put together the eppie. Gamble wrote it and put in her usual carp with the females and Sam but that was in no way her idea. That was too much fresh creativity to have come from SG and her writers.
“I’m gonna start with the misogyny, for the simple reason that it was ugly and it bothered me a great deal, and I never want to see that level of woman-hating bile on this show ever again. Especially disturbing is that not only did this show go into some really nasty anti-female territory under a female showrunner, but some of the worst offenses occurred in episodes she wrote. In 7.17, it mainly showed in some of the dumbest and most extraneous Damsels in Distress in the show’s record (and that bar is set very high – or low, depending on your preferences in the game of Limbo). Here, it went a few horrible steps farther.”
Yes, the misogyny was horrible and I agreed with you completely. This was SG swan song so she was going to put as much of her bad crap in it as she could. Again and I saw no reason for Polly to undress for the injection. I keep thinking some worms or hives or something would happen but nothing! What was the disrobing about?…other than Gamble’s lack of respect for her sex. Equally was the silly rescue of the maid. She was fine when Bobby left her the first time, and equally fine when Bobby left her the second time. This was just another ‘plot within a plot’ like Gamble had in 7.17 that the episode could have done fine without. And no Bobby didn’t need the maid to do what he was planning. It was just Gamble’s way of degrading females again. Bobby could, and more appropriately should have, taken one of Romans guards to enter the building. What SG had him do was silly.
Equally wrong was Sam’s treatment of Dean when he saw Bobby. Since when has Sam the right to scream at Dean ‘Shut up”. That was just more of Gamble’s degrading of Dean…like she has done all season with the drugs and drinking. It was totally inappropriate and Sam should be ashamed for talking to his brother like that. That was almost as bad as Sam attitude in Slice Girls, or after his temper tantrum in The Mentalists. That is “childish” Sam and has no place in the series. That was for SG’s obsessed Samfans. How HORRIBLE of her!!! That was as bad as her having Dean’s face slammed into the table last eppie. That is something Carver will change.
I wasn’t as upset when Bobby dies this time because, he still isn’t dead. They whole point of the ghost issue was to send him to Purgatory with Dean and Cas. And I know you want Bobby gone, but the fans don’t. And I’m glad he is with Dean and not Sam. The three are also back with Roman and Edgar, so for all intents and purposed, except for Polly, no one’s character was ended this episode. Even Kevin will be back..though I’m not sure how he will fit into things. Kind of neat the way Carver did that.
Can’t believe that people really were upset with Meg driving the impala. I thought it was a great way to get Dean, Cas and Sam into the compound without an army of Levies on them. That was Dean’s idea too. Again we see Carver’s influence. He always treated Dean with respect and acknowledged he has a high IQ.
I liked Crowley in this episode and was glad to see the evil side of him again. Before he was up against much stronger Big Bads then himself but now it’s just him. And I don’t know where fans EVER got the idea that Crowley was Gabriel. People want the REAL trickster back not Crowley for him. And all the myth arc stuff is gone now! No more Luci, cage, Michael, Adam ect.
As for the reset…yep I’m guessing that is what Purgatory is. And Bobby will be there. Will Anyone else? I don’t know. And Roman is also there, in what form who knows but yes he is there. Wouldn’t be fun if Dean and Cas didn’t run into them again. And Bobby will be restored next season. No more fan fav deaths…so I think it will be great for the fans. As for who else they can restore, I don’t know who is in heaven except for Ash and Pamala.
As for how long the separation, to have it any longer that a few episodes will be not good….and also not what Singer said the boys would be doing in s8. Less angst and less deaths and lots of MOTW hunting…so I’m guessing it will be maybe 2-3 episodes if that many.
As for Sam, he’s on cleanup and then, hopefully, trying to find Dean though really Carver can have Dean and Cass get themselves and anyone else out they want. I just hope they don’t have Sam the big hero again. I need to have Dean’s arcs for a while. We have had the special snowflake for 4 years. Yes…Carver is 50/50 with the boys in his episodes. But we need 100% Dean for a while!
As for Sam as a Bobby..please! I don’t want him to do anything but redeem himself to Dean and that can start with him learning how to speak to family….i.e. stop telling him to “Shut Up’. That was SO BAAAAAD!
Awesome review, Paula. You touched on a lot of feelings I had about this episode. The Bobby stuff; I honestly wish I could have been in the writers room when they were coming up with this whole plot line just to see if it made anymore sense. They totally dragged his death out for half a season and then made it completely pointless! I thought okay he’s a ghost now and while annoying, he’s gonna be a part of the final battle with Dick. Nope. And I agree I’m beyond tired of him always calling the guys dumb or blaming them for something. I don’t see how anyone continues to see him as a good influence in their lives. Sure he’s probably saying that stuff in jest but after a while even that becomes annoying. Everything with the maid just ruined him even further. It’s more of that “ooh this will look cool” crap instead of what actually works. Not to mention after the hellpain stuff was cleared up instead of giving Dean more to do they shifted to ghost!Bobby which made no sense. Honestly by this point I’m glad he’s gone. They totally ruined him.
I hope we never EVER see Dick again because he annoyed me from start to finish. He was never scary or smart or charismatic, he was just there. And his entire plan was very stupid. I’m sort of amazed that out of all the things they could have did with the Leviathans, THAT is what they went with. The monsters that eat other monsters…who put on suits and have board meetings? Seriously. Also the killing of skinny people; I thought meat was meat? Chicken nuggets might not be a giant chicken breast but they can still make you full if you eat enough lol. It’s stuff like that that just solidifies how horrible/boring S7 was.
I’m so SO excited by the end and the thought of Purgatory, even more so because Dean is there with Castiel and I really missed them being together the past two season. I too hope it’s not resolved quickly; if done right I wouldn’t mind it going on until the mid-season finale. Also I hope they have Sam hook up with someone good this time, not relationship wise but I think Jodi would be good for him. She’d at least keep him grounded while he’s searching for Dean/Cas/Kevin and taking out Leviathans. But yes most of what I enjoyed of this episode were Dean/Castiel stuff. (I too did wonder though why Sam didn’t put the blood on the pointy end of that bone.) I remember a commentary from the first time Carver mentions ever writing for Castiel without seeing Misha, and he says after seeing him he was quite impressed lol. I think it was In The Beginning which I have always enjoyed because it was also Dean-centric.
I don’t feel bad about hoping he brings more for Dean (and Castiel, obviously) but I mean I don’t want him to forget Sam either. I just hope this season is more Deancentric. The finale isn’t even a week old and people are raging at the concept of Dean and Castiel being together somewhere. Even people who complained that we never see Sam’s POV or that he never gets to spend time with the guest stars. If the Purgatory story line goes on for a bit we’d get both of those things, most likely, but they don’t care. Some people get very threatened when Dean isn’t focused/joined at the hip with Sam and it makes me wonder if it’s because deep down, they do realize Dean is a bit more dynamic. Everything might happen to Sam, but it’s Dean who gets to emote about it/carry it with him, causing him to grow and the audience to feel for the emotions he shows. (Of course it could just be because Castiel is with him lol) Either way I hope if Carver plans to keep the brothers a part for a while that he follows through and doesn’t let crazy fan tweets or whatever sway him.
“I don’t feel bad about hoping he brings more for Dean (and Castiel, obviously) but I mean I don’t want him to forget Sam either. I just hope this season is more Deancentric. The finale isn’t even a week old and people are raging at the concept of Dean and Castiel being together somewhere. Even people who complained that we never see Sam’s POV or that he never gets to spend time with the guest stars. If the Purgatory story line goes on for a bit we’d get both of those things, most likely, but they don’t care. Some people get very threatened when Dean isn’t focused/joined at the hip with Sam and it makes me wonder if it’s because deep down, they do realize Dean is a bit more dynamic. Everything might happen to Sam, but it’s Dean who gets to emote about it/carry it with him, causing him to grow and the audience to feel for the emotions he shows. (Of course it could just be because Castiel is with him lol) Either way I hope if Carver plans to keep the brothers a part for a while that he follows through and doesn’t let crazy fan tweets or whatever sway him.”
How Carver deals with the rabid Samfans after EK/SG have spoon fed then the nonsense about Sam being the super cool one, I don’t know. I hope he does what he has always done and work the boys 50/50. That will ire the Sam fans no end because they only want him out in front, being rude, disrespectful, throwing temper tantrums etc. And they only like his POV because it is anti-authority which is what they like to see. That POV the show can do without. For me Sam needs a back seat for a while. Let Jared be with his son. Let Cass, Dean (and yes, Bobby) be front and center for a while. The series won’t die if Sam isn’t around. It would drop like a rock if Dean wasn’t though.
If Carver actually has Sam grow up, obsessed Samfans won’t like Sam for sure. He would turn into a responsible citizen that didn’t lie to his brother, sneak behind his back, run away, throw temper tantrums etc. He would be like one of their parents and they would have a fit. If Carver would follow through with it and not let them sway him, I would be so happy. Dean fans would have to stop being quiet and really support Carver for that, but they are not as rabid as Sam fans so I don’t know if they would.
As for Sam growing up, I can’t see that without Dean’s presence. And Sam was on his own before and he never grew up. He needs Dean for that. As long as the Purgatory thing isn’t too long, and Dean and Cas are highlighted, it might bring back a lot of viewers who left because of the Sam-centric years. Really Carver may only have 1-2 episodes to convince them to stay, so he needs good plots, good scripts and good acting for the first few eppies.
Hee, chicken nuggets. I love this about horror.
Last year on American Horror Story, Zachary Quinto’s ghost character reveals his diabolical scheme, which is Step 1: Decorate a nursery (with bunny stamps he’s carved from a sweet-potato (remember when you used to come up with stuff like that, SHOW?)) Step 2: Steal some newborns from their mother. Step 3: Lovingly raise newborns. Step 4: Lovingly smother newborns at age one “so they’ll be cute and lovable [baby ghosts] forever.”
And the universal parental reaction was: “He’s gonna smother BABIES?? That’s just wrong!…Wait until they’re *three*, they’ll be way more fun AND potty-trained!”
And now we’re all like “Dick, what are you thinking wasting all that lean protein! Maybe you could get a wok? I know some great stir-fries you could try, here, I’ll write down the recipe. Or, you know, there’s always jerky — I bet you could tack on a dehydrator for the plant…”
I’ve been thinking about the idea that SG and team never truly wrote about what scares them. I think that is so, so right. In this conversation — Ginger mentions how as a conservative, she found the “politics” laughable, shallow and offensive. I have to say that as a liberal, I did too. It doesn’t even help that they were “on my side” because they never once said anything worthwhile or interesting about either side.
Politics in the modern world is scary as hell. So is the power of corporate America and the 1%. So is our self-tainted food supply and obesity issues. (@ castiel’scat YES. Use the skinny people as SNACKS, c’mon.) We live in a scary freaking world every day, and if SPN acknowledged that it’s actually a global world we have that much more we fear.
Not for one second did this season engage with any thought that went deep enough to explore the genuine, meaningful fears behind any of those concepts. They never dug in, only batted them around like crib toys. Not one writer, all season, managed to make a meaningful engagement with a genuine modern fear (except maybe, Slash Fiction and identity theft.) It all just flitted on the surface making adolescent jokes. Surface scary and trite/lazy/old scary, is all we got.
Oh, @ Cassieo — yeah, the “shut up” moment. I can certainly agree to disagree, but I really liked that part. I read it as a suggestion of growth for Sam. Right now, Dean needs more care than Sam, and Sam can see that. In the past, big-brother Dean would always — always! — push himself forward to confront the danger first, before Sammy could get to it. And Sam would always let him. They both assumed that it was the natural order of the world. Those assumptions have held them both back.
In real life, it’s *hard* to break out of that stuff. My younger sibs were out of college before they stopped leaving me to approach strangers first. I have an unflattering tendency to forget that my middle-little-sis has a by-gum PhD in stuff-I-don’t-know. The older/younger dynamic has always been one of the truest parts of SPN for me.
So I read that as Sam’s moment to leap into danger first, not selfishly for himself, but to take care of Dean. Not because Dean can’t, but because Dean’s been through the wars all season and deserves a break, especially from confronting Vengeful Bobby. I didn’t worry about “shut up” because it would take that much for Dean to even hear it. I hope this isn’t the last word of some development along these lines.
Ann, I like your viewpoint on the whole “shut up” thing. I highly doubt that Sera Gamble intended anything so sweet… or healthy… or logical for the brothers, but I’m more than willing to go with your synopsis.
Actually the ‘Shut Up’ thing is not for Dean’s benefit at all. Dean does not need care either as he is the only one normal all season. Dean has been doing the caring and is perfectly stable. Please don’t fall in the SG rouse that Dean is anything less that perfectly functional and sharp as a tack. That is her way of degrading Dean.
Sam was not protecting Dean at all because Dean would not have gone after Bobby. He wouldn’t have risked the exposure or possible capture if the Levies had seen him. Sam should not have gone either. Getting Roman was more important than Bobby or the maid. He should have listened to Dean…again. Sam was not acting rationally and he should have listened to his brother. Luckily this time Sam lucked out, but normally his decision do not turn out well.
So yes…I think we should agree to disagree. And I hope in the future Sam learns his limitations and listens to Dean. He is just not the strategist that Dean is.
Actually, the offense I take to the political and social commentary doesn’t fall under the conservative or liberal labels. My problem with the writers in this regard is that they didn’t do their damned jobs and, instead, played with the current political environment, and even did that poorly.
First, this is a horror show, so I expect a little bit of horror — meaning that I never was given a reason why the Winchesters were invested in the Levi or why the Levi were invested in the Winchesters. They simply wanted to take over the world, or the U.S., or something, kill off skinny and smart people, breed more fat, lazy people. Meanwhile, Sam was nuts for a while, and Dean drank and perhaps did a little drugs because, first he lost Cas, but that changed to he lost Bobby. He was going to kill Dick for killing Bobby (the best scene in the season, actually), until Bobby reappeared and was given the revenge story. In the meantime, Cas shows up, cures Sam totally and Dean quits drinking excessively. Then Dean’s back to his old self in one late-occurring episode, and then he goes and kills Dick, because GhostBobby told him not to do it because of the revenge that Bobby had been given, but because it was the job.
The point: The showrunner and the writers job is to tell a coherent story, with coherent characterization, evenly plotted, and with the story unfolding in an evenly paced manner. None of that was done, and the fans, in general, conservative or liberal, should be offended. By God, we know all the ills of the U.S. now, don’t we, but what resolution did Dean get? Where was the middle and the ending of his story? Sam did get a beginning, a middle, and an end, but it was poorly done. Cas was all over the place in several different versions. Bobby came and went, and came and went again. Meg, well…she came, she babysat, and she went…we think.
In a nutshell, the point is: Do your high-paid job before preaching any political philosophy or personal social commentary. I’m here to be entertained. I already attended Political Science 101 many years ago, it was a boring class then, and it never gets any more interesting.
P.S. Just a hint writers: West Wing did it well and their characters were much more interesting.
Great review, Paula. As usual, you noted all the things that bugged me, the things I liked and the many things I never even thought of. At least the episode didn’t turn out to be the Swan Song Part Deux that I feared.
The episode itself was very mediocre and quite boring, but the end left Dean & Castiel in a very interesting position, even if it wasn’t a surprise. Like the other posters, I hope that they don’t magically find themselves rescued from Purgatory in the first few minutes of the first episode. There’s so much potential for a whole raft of new monsters for them to encounter and the writers might even remember canon and have Dean’s phoenix ash blood help towards their eventual escape. I really don’t want to see greatest hits of people/monsters who previously died in the show, and particularly not Bobby or Dick, because there must be creatures in there that Dean has either never fought previously or never fought on screen. What will he use for weapons? How will he do his research? I can’t wait to see how Dean can handle himself with limited resources and only Castiel for back up.
Like shamangrrl, I really want to see how Sam handles being the decision-maker. He needs to ally himself with people that Dean isn’t going to want to destroy when he returns to Earth. If he considers what Dean would do and then acts in a sensible manner, it might finally move him away from the freak he never was but felt himself to be. Sam as a mature, capable, considerate hunter could go a long way towards the character earning my respect.
If Bobby isn’t gone for good, I’ll eat my boot. With all due respect to Jim Beaver, Ghost!Bobby was a horrible creation and the possession of the maid was the absolute last straw for me. The only redeeming feature was that he finally realised himself that he was rabid and needed to be put down. It’s just a shame that Bobby wasn’t allowed to stay dead when he apparently died the first time.
Kevin was unnecessary in this episode. Polly was gratuitous and made me cringe. If the Leviathans only want fat people to eat, can’t they just feed their corn syrup-laced food to the turduckened, compliant masses? It’s not like the humans would resist an order, given how Polly did what she was told without complaining. Dick was the most toothless (so to speak) enemy the Winchesters have ever encountered. The scariest thing about coporate suits is the amount of jargon that they use and how much those suits cost.
The Sera Gamble years have been disappointing. She didn’t work out well as showruner and it was the right decision to bring in someone new. Hopefully Mr Carver will deliver some good and interesting horror with writers who remember the show’s canon. I definitely look forward to finding out.
Wonderful review Paula!! The last 20 minutes or so of the episode was very good, but what I’m especially excited about is the potential storyline the end offers for the 8th season. I am particularly intrigued with Purgatory and Dean’s storyline.
This will definitely offer Dean, Sam and Cass the opportunity to grow and ind their destiny in the SPN universe. I understand your logic concerning who can be found in Purgatory, but where do you think Mary and John are?
I do hope Dean’s adventures in Purgatory will be handled well. I think Carver will give us Uber hunter Dean, and a much more mature Sam. I think the Alpha Vamp will play a role down the line too.
I do think it was sad to see what SG did to the character of Bobby. So sad to see a character so deconstructed and left in the ruins of Sera’s obsession to not put a character to rest. Really, what did Ghost Bobby bring to the storyline other than turn a character with history into a cardboard cutout of he was. In fact, Bobby was taken down a terrible road once he boohooed Dean and trivialized his pain in Lucifer Rising.
Here’s to a new season! Looking forward to reading the comments.
The last third of the show was so much better than 95% of the season. I’m actually quite thankful — in my mind I can skip from Bobby’s death mid-season all the way over to the scene after the flask burning and simply pretend that he never came back.
In fact, I think I’m just going to selectively remember the bits of this season that I want to piece together a story that pleases me and pretend that’s what really happened in Season 7. Hey, it worked for the writer’s and the show’s canon, so why not?
Supernatural Season 7 Roundtable Review: A Look Back … http://www.tvovermind.com/supernatural/ …
For what its worth… Sorry I cannot do a link with my phone.
Thanks Paula, for the great review!
I thought most of the episode was pretty lackluster but I loved Dean rounding on Cas for not cleaning up his mess, and I loved the end with Dean in Purgatory. All of the sudden, season 8 took on a whole new meaning and I am excited to see where the new showrunner takes this storyline — Dean’s storyline. I don’t even mind Sam being stuck on earth, driven Sam is fun as long as there is no demon blood and he has a soul. He doesn’t need Demon blood to open Purgatory, but Death would have to help and though Dean and Death will always be my favorite, Sam and Death might be a whole new interesting thing. I would not mind at all if Dean stays in Purgatory for awhile, until mid-season anyway. Done right, and thank heavens SG isn’t doing it so maybe there’s a chance, next season should be epic.
So, I’m a little late on it all this time and most of the things that either were “not so amazing” or “were damn freaking amazing” has been pointed out by Paula and the rest of you already so I’m not gonna jump into that and just re-phrase it all.
I loved the season finale, I loved that Dean was the one to throw the flask into the fire, I loved how Dean was the one to kill Dick, I loved seeing Baby back (yes, I cried when I saw that montage, crying over a car something like that will only happen to you with SPN), I loved the Dean and Cas scenes and especially loved the ending scene as horrible as it is for both brothers to be separated again. But dman, aren’t these last 3 minutes of the finale chilling? Truly horror. I LOVE it!!!!
But Dean in purgatory… Hell, there are tons of amazing storylines waiting for him. Fighting the monsters he killed, fighting his own monsters, becoming a monster himself? coming out of purgatory stronger than before (especially if SPN has purgatory just in a small way being like it’s described in christian belief – a place to be cleansed of your sins. We all know what this would do to Dean, a lot of weight lifted from his shoulders. How will Dean come back? With a purgatory PTSD on top of a never dealt with post hell PTSD? Could also be an interesting storyline. No matter where they go I feel there are millions of amazing Dean stories waiting for us.
I’m sooooo excited for season 8. As for Sam. I feel a bit bad for not writing about him. :/ But he really didn’t stand out to me in the finale. I just hope he won’t find himself a Ruby 3.0 to break Dean out of purgatory. I’d love to see DEATH again though. He’s just a great character and would certainly fit into the story with maybe being helpful with opening purgatory.
Also, I mentioned that before in the spec comments. I think the brother have to be separated for quite a while in order to have character development. I really hope we won’t get a 8.01 where we see Dean and Cas crawl out of purgatory 1 year later. I loved 4.01 but I don’t want to see that another time. I think the brothers should be separated at least for 6 episodes otherwise I feel like they shouldn’t have zapped Cas and Dean into purgatory at all.
Oh, and just something else. Read that spec somewhere on tumblr. Right now a lot of people are dissatisfied with how the show handled Dean’s depressiom and drinking storyline, because there was no resultion, no payoff, yada yada… But if Carver is the genious everybody makes him out to be at the moment or at least set a lot of hopes in him there might be some resolutions in S8. I mean, I doubt the writers would NOT forget about their own stories, but maybe that’ll change. Anyway, I only wanted to say. For Dean’s drinking, maybe – but I really doubt that they will go there since Dean and Cas will be too occupied with fighting for their life and fighting of the monsters – Dean will actually go into some kind of “withradawals”. Would fit into the story of not just dealing with the monsters you killed but your own monsters.
Dean’s drinking was not ever part of the storyline. It may have been used to show why he picked Bobby’s flask to carry, but that wouldn’t have ever called for the sometimes excessive amt they showed him with. That was SG’s way of degrading an authoritative person. The series has done the same thing with John, Rufus, Bobby and probaly others I’ve forgotten about. With Dean/JA I can’t help but think some of it was just to degrade Dean especially because SG and JA were at odds over the storyline.
I do not expect to see any more of that under Carver. There will be no withdrawal nonsense either. That all will be dropped and forgotten, which will be a great improvement to the show.
SG is a sad peson with some serious problems.
When you get right down to it, Jensen was correct in saying that Dean had no story for S8. The drinking/depression/pill popping revenge didn’t mean anything. Dean was used as a tool to introduce the GhostBobby story and Sam’s hellpain was used to re-introduce Cas as Misha on screen. Sam, for what it’s worth, had a beginning, middle and an end. Dean’s was, once again, just dropped.
I not expecting Carver to do address any of the past dropped storylines for either Sam or Dean. I do, and cringe to think about it, think that Dean and Cas will be hooked at the hips. While I prefer the Dean/Cas scenes over the Dean/Sam scenes, I want to see Dean have his own story for a change.
The way I see it, Dean actually did have a storyline- his depression/anger/hopelessness/drinking/lack of purpose was mentioned in 18 straight episodes, during which time it escalated and appeared to morph into a hardened quest for revenge. As late as this March, Jensen himself thought Dean was headed for a breakdown. The set up was there- the problem was in how it was chucked with no explanation. Evn some of the more clueless media critics wondered what the heck happened.
I was one of those who’d been convinced we’d get some sort of payoff this time around. It made absolutely no sense and defied the most basic writing principles to set up something this obvious, for so many episodes, and then suddenly ignore the whole thing. But the minute Bobby popped in, Dean’s revenge arc was history and that led to a “depression? what depression?” domino effect.
Maybe the writers just didnt’ give a crap by the end of this season. Or maybe this was yet another of the show’s infamous course corrections. Jim Beaver said recently he thought Bobby would only be in the season finale and that the avenging ghost thing was progressing sooner/faster than he’d anticipated. Whatever the reason, those unfired guns on the mantle were pretty damn distracting.
I wish I had faith that the writers would give us some closure next season. But I suspect those guns will unfortunately stay right where they are.
What happened to the season was Jeremy Carver. If SG had stayed, Dean would have been a raving lunatic in an mental ward and special snowflake would have saved the day. I would not be surprised if Carver or Singer was influencing stuff back before 7.17. It made no sense to me that SG would drop the crappy hellpain plot that she had doggedly kept going way past s6 before s7 was over, especially when the silly Samfans wanted it to go on forever. And SG ALWAYS catered to them.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Carver and/or Singer also had a hand in Ghost!Bobby since even Jim Beaver said they had originally told them they didn’t know when he would be back, if ever.
S8 is supposed to be repairing fan relations, and two of the most complained about plots were the horrible s6 + the train wreak of the hell pain dragged into s7, and the deaths of fan favs. So all of a sudden, hell pain is gone and two fan favs that had been axed were back. Yeah….I definitely think the switch was for s8 and if it wasn’t Carver it was Singer. He also had come out for changes in the storyline.
Just putting this on top. Beware of my Dean goggles…
@Elena: I feel the same way. Even though a lot of people hated Dean’s “storyline” [see how I wrote storyline ] I actually kind of liked it and as you said: the frustrating thing wasn’t the story itself, but how it didn’t go anywhere (yet).
I can only speak for myself. I by no means would look forward to a Dean going through withdrawal symptoms in purgatory. No, not at all. This kind of stuff doesn’t belong in this show. Do I want Dean’s drinking to be dealt/ adressed with? Hell yes! Dean’s drinkign might have been to some extent just a stylistic device, but that doesn’t change the fact that Dean’s coping mechanisms has been spiraling out of control since he came back from hell. And that by the way is another thing I always would have loved to be explored more: Dean really dealing with the time he spent in hell. Do I think he worked through his issues grounding from it? No, not at all. Do I want Dean to get better and get his grove back? Damn yes! But not in the way all his flaws suddenly disappear into thin air…
So I think we all can agree that some liked Dean’s “story” this year and some didn’t, but for Dean’s character to let go of all his issues and insecurities or be completely washed clean from them now in Carver Era, would – to me – make a Dean that isn’t Dean. Because just as a lot of people were pissed about Dean’s “storyline” in season 7 I will be pissed if Carver would really start with a “clean slate” and ignores the characters’ journeys of the past 2 season (no matter how crappy those might have been in some people’s eyes). For example: Dean’s spiraling out of control drinking (has been documented since season 4, it’s really nothing new, the amount we saw him drink this season is. I’m sorry, but if Dean comes back from purgatory not touching a single drop of alcohol there better be a fucking explanation for that otherwise I’m gonna be pissed. As Elena said Jensen thought there needs to be breaing point with Dean (and to be honest even though some people think Dean’s drinking went poof on the season finale I can say I saw that differently. We might not have seen him pour a shot of something hard, drink from his flask, etc. but come on that could easily be explained with how many things happened in that episode how would he have had time to get drunk. That’s not like him, not even in season 7. Also, I think there were more subtle hints about drinking. Not just Dean’s but Sam’s as well (of course Sam is using alcohol in a different way than Dean does obviously. I mean if you look closely empty bottles etc is always around the boys. I found the scene of when Crowley appears to give them his blood pretty obvious “silent commentary” or at least “hinting” to both boys’ drinking (even though of course maybe more directed towards Dean). I mean the scene where he grabs the drink from the table and makes a face. But maybe I’m overanalizing. I just want Carver the resolve thoss storylines in a satisfying way. Guess he has a lot to do then… Not just with Dean’s character…
I think this “storyline” needs to be dealt with in some way. I mean he certainly can’t keep drinking the way he did in season 7, but in a way drinking (not excessively) has always been something that was part of Dean’s personality. I mean if you think about it a lot of brotherly moments (that we all love) involve drinking beer on the Impala, etc. I guess if you really take a close look on the use of alcohol throughout the whole series you’d be worried, because it seems to be bascially everywhere. The boys drink together. Sam drank a LOT after Dean went to hell. Bobby. John. Meg. I don’t need to mention Dean again.
Just a quick question to self, when and why the hell did this reply turn into a paragraph about drinking. :/ That wasn’t my intention. But that’s how it is. I get carried away. One thought domino effects the other and I can’t stop thinking and writing. Okay, breath try to organize your thoughts and end this reply.
God, that was long… I just hope loose ends from the previous season (as JA mentioned there are some) will get tied together in season 8.
It did appear that Dean had a “storyline” for most of the season but, once again, it was suddenly dropped. EK didn’t give a second thought to dropping Dean’s 2-year arc with the stroke of a pen, and SG tried her best to deconstruct Dean in every way she could. The excessive drinking/drug/all-hope-is-gone Dean was a big part of that effort, and she spent two years pounding fans over the head with THAT Dean (adding to EK’s 5th season).
Don’t forget, too, that Dean fans were baited with the ‘righteous’ man thing this season, just to have some random nun bone used as the weapon. Whose to say, now, that Dean in Purgatory isn’t just another temporary thing being baited for Dean’s character, instead of an actual ‘story.’
I read somewhere, and I don’t even remember now who said it (Singer maybe) or which interview I read it in, that the purpose of S8 would be to repair fan relations. If that is the case, then I would say Dean’s character is way past needing some attention — actually that character needs rehabilitated.
First off, Carver has to decide which Dean he wants: the goofy, big slinky, big pretzel, skirt-chasing, Dean or the wussy, woe-is-me, life-is-too-much-for-me Dean. Is Dean going to be a hunter or a sad sack?
Same for Sam. Is he going to be the special snowflake, best-hunter-on-the-planet, huffing and puffing action man, smartest light bulb in the shed, or is he going to be the puppy-eyed, grimacing, Dean-help-me Sam.
Same for what kind of show this is going to be. Is the show going to be a dark, gritty, horror show with two hunters killing evil for the purpose of saving people with some witty humor sprinkled in or Changing Channels with forced humor (think Becky, Garth and Frank) and soap opera, contrived ‘personal’ journey stories. Are we going to get a show with episode after episode of support character focus to give the two leads time off, or is this a show about the two Winchesters and their sidekick angel?
I don’t care what direction Carver takes the show, but I hope that he gives it some focus, that he gives the characters some focus, and he picks a story and gives it some focus. That way I can decide early on whether I want to stick with the show or finally give up on it. The deciding factor in my decision will be whether Jensen has a defined character to play and what defined role that character is going to have in the story. As a fan, I’m tired of being jerked around, teased, and made fun of (Time for a Wedding I’m looking at you).
I think, though, and I may be so very wrong, as I usually am with this show, that Carver is going to try to do something along the lines of repairing fan relationships. Misha coming back as Cas playing Misha seems to be an effort to satisfy the Mishamigos. The Purgatory story hints at a storyline for Dean, and Sam being all alone and having to solve a problem or two on his own hints at a storyline for him. I’m skeptical, and rightfully so, given the history of Dean baiting this show has.
My point is, I wouldn’t care if Carver just ignores all the dropped crap (Dean’s hell PSTD, the righteous man, the been-to-all-realm-, but-that-doesn’t-mean-anything, the drink-inducing depression, and goes forward with some focus.
Ginger I really see where you are coming from about Gamble deconstructing Dean. Really from the beginning of S6 I think she was doing this by having everyone else call him “rusty” and make fun of his time in hell while Soulless!Sam was the new super hunter. It seemed like everyone thought not hunting for a year had turned Dean into a useless flop or something. That is one reason the Campbells got on my last nerve–the way they reacted to Dean. I suppose they realized he would be suspicious of their motives for wanting Alphas but it just came off as mean spirited.
And then in S7; while the heavier drinking and stuff could have been seen as a story line for him, I’m more inclined to believe (like you) it was just another way to put him down even more. Here he is drinking all day and night while brave Sam goes for jogs. Perhaps I’m wrong and it was going somewhere until Carver came on, but if that is the case I’m even happier Carver is here. If S8 is to repair fan relations I think he’s a good person to do it. In most of his episodes Dean was written as smart, brave and sincere. Even as far back as S3. And he used Castiel in a good way, which personally would make me a happier camper in S8. Awesome Dean and Cas? That would repair my relations with the show lol.
If Dean continues to drink in S8 I won’t mind because with the job he does and all he has been through it makes sense, but if it never spirals our of control either I won’t be too upset about it. Especially if Carver does in fact give us a smart story line for Dean.
I’m in a minority and find all the current PC rage particularly annoying, but I like Dean’s drinking and his inappropriate remarks (boning a nun and the Michael Jackson, ‘too soon’ remark as examples). It’s the only part of ‘old Dean’ that we’ve seen in years and, to me, it shows that he is a hardened hunter. I seriously hope that Dean is shown as a badass hunter in S8. That’s probably too much to hope for, but here I am.
I’d just like to say this before I am writing the other few things down.
I really appreciate our discussions and specs and opinion sharings on here a lot. It’s always done in a nice manner and even if we disagree on topics it never causes drama. No one ever gets “personal” in a way that would degrade the other person because they don’t share they same opinion. I find that to be very refreshing an dit’s a rare thing on spn sites! Because just like @Ginger I hate all the fighting and argueing and drama that is purely there to stirr up shit and drama. So glad this is different on here. Thanks guys! <3 If you should ever feel – I don't know – defensive because of something I wrote please don't feel that way. That is never something I intended. Sometimes I just get carried away… Like now. So yeah.
I actually think I didn't steal @castiel'scat just this season, as I see now I must have been wearing them all along. But yeah, I can see how you all say that SG deconstructed Dean's character. I know what you mean and I know where you are coming from, but for some reason I personally never saw it that way. Maybe it's the Dean goggles, I really don't know… I like this multi-layered Dean (not the suicidal one) with self doubts, stupid remarks, the badass hunter and yes I even like his drinking and to a certain extent maybe even his depression (as long as it's not too suicidal). To me this didn't take anything away from the character, it just made me love Dean more. To me this is character development. I would find it boring to still have the exact same Dean from S 1/2 five years later. I guess nothing can really ruin Dean as a charcter for me. Maybe it has something to do with JA amazing acting skills, I really don't know. As for S6 when the Campbells (god, I hated that storyline) tell him he's rusty, I didn't really think Dean was such a worse hunter. In fact I think the whole storyline made me think – even if he had one year off (as Dean said himself he's rusty, but he really is anything but that, just look at the Twilight episode) – he still is a better hunter than most of the others. And it also didn't deconstruct Dean for me but quite the opposite: it showed and manifested Dean as the most human and most moral being on the show. The one character that has a backbone. Someone who cares. A lot. I didn't see this as deconstructing. Struggling, having a hard time show Dean as a human with lots of problems, but to save the world he pushes all that aside. Now that I think about it. I kind of think that Sam has been way more deconstructed than Dean in S6. He was a downright douchebag-idiot a good half of S6.
I may be leaning a little too far out of the window with this but I neither like nor absolutely despise SG. I like some of the episodes she wrote/co-wrote throughtout the years and I also see how she fucked some things up big time, but for her to completetly and consciously deconstruct one of the leads (because of – as some rumours online say it – a personal beef between her and JA) wouldn't just be highly unprofessional but also plain stupid. Anyway. Her era is over, all fingers crossed for Carver to come up with some amazing storylines. As has been said before the purgatory ending has great potential.
Anyway, I'm curious for Carver's S8. And as much as I like that they seem to want to please the fans I hope they won't overdo it, because just to write something as fanservice most of the time ends in crappy storytelling and bad writing. Just look at how the re-introduction of Cas and Bobby have been handled this season and to a cretain extent this was pure fanservice. Can't say I'm looking forward to mor sloppy re-introductions of Chuck or Gabriel int hat kind of way. I'd rather have more interesting stories with new charcaters and flashback episodes or one or two AU episodes to get those characters back then such horrible re-introductions just to please the fans. If it's done crappy it would be just as bas as if they went with the "all S6 and S7 were a dream" scenario.
Is it october yet? It's going to be the longest summer ever.
Another great recap.
The one thing I disagree about is Vincent, I love that song! LOL
Kevin picking the lock with a barrette was so totally stupid, it makes me wonder if any of the writers ever bothered taking a lock picking course, or looking it up, which is free on the web, only a couple of minutes worth of time to find out what makes a deadbolt and how it could never be picked with anything as simple as a barrette, nor can any modern locks be picked with such a simple tool as a barrette or paper clip. Yeesh!
I love the Merlin to twisted Arthur comparison. Usually I go for Cas’ Spock to Dean’s Capt Kirk, but Merlin to Arthur fits very well also.
Apparently Levi’s don’t think that heavy people use coffee creamers. Go figure.
I’m hoping Bobby has moved on and does not make an appearance in Purgatory. The Mary Sue of Bobby has turned me off the character so much that I don’t think I can stomach him anymore. He was so OTT perfect and knowledgeable and just, ugh! No more.
The sad part of the Levis is that they were supposed to be so intelligent and yet, unintelligent Pods in The Body Snatchers succeeded far more thoroughly than Dick and his stupid plans did.
I’m so excited for season 8, something that I haven’t been since the anticipation of season 4 and how Dean would get out of hell. I loved the introduction of Cas.
Dean in Purgatory with Cas as his only partner will be very interesting. I agree the story shouldn’t be extended all season, though I wouldn’t mind, but I think 6 episodes or so would do just fine.
Sam topside trying to save Kevin from Crowley while trying to find a portal into which Dean and Cas can escape would be a great foil for Dean and Cas looking for a portal in Purgatory that they can use to get out. I just hope that Carver, unlike Gamble, isn’t going to make Sam the sole hero in getting Dean and Cas out. I want Dean and Cas to play an active role in getting themselves out also. After 2 years of watching Sam to everything while Dean stood by, and Cas was absent, I’m ready for something new and fresh.
Which is what made the finla minutes of the finale so intriguing. Dean and Cas did play an active role. I hope season 8 allows Dean and Cas to be more active also, especially Dean who has been forced to be a passive character for 3 seasons now.
@AFriendOfAFriend and @Ginger
I have always liked the Dean of seasons 1-3. The ‘smarter brother’ as he called himself in “Sin City”. He can be as smart mouthed as he wants, minus the juvenile humor stuff, as long as he stays sharp, badassed, selfless and most of all human. The multi-layered Dean we had before the myth arc started was great. The weak, whiny, depressed, low self worth, insecure, drunk, drug addicted flop we have seen recently, has GOT to go. That is not the real Dean.
As for the drinking, no reason that is wrong if done in moderation. Paula even pointed out it can be thought of as similar to Holmes’ cocaine addiction. Done in moderation it could be made to look acceptable. But if Doyle had Holmes imbibed in his drug, like SG had Dean drinking, it would not have been acceptable to Holmes’ fans at all. My point was the extent SG took it too. No reason for that. It had NOTHING to do with the storyline at all, and to add pills to that too…no. That and the other ways she had the writers make Dean look bad had to have a personal connection to it.
And if the drinking is because of the job, let’s have Sam do it more also. If he’s going to hunt, he should experience the same draw backs that other hunters do. I am just tired of him being the prissy pure, ray of sunlight, and sympathetic victim when he leave human-killing monsters alive because he feels sorry for them, throws temper tantrums, runs away leaving his brother unguarded, lies, sneaks and betray right and left on the show. This is what I hope Carver changes. Dean has begun to show some signs of going back to normal, but Sam needs a complete makeover.
@Cassieo: I find it really interesting to experience how different two people can see and “judge” the exact same character on tv. I don’t mean this as “My opinion is the right one and yours is wrong”, but really as I find it to be really interesting, because as you said you find the everything past S3 Dean to be weak. I never in all seven seasons found Dean to be weak. Never. Not once. Extremely troubled at times yes, but not ever weak. I guess it’s all about perspective.
I always sympathized with Dean. Sure sometimes you want to drop a bucket of ice cold water on him, but there never was a thing that made me dislike Dean or perceive him as weak, rusty or a raging drug addict. The whole pill popping thing will always stay a thing I will never understand I guess. Came out of nowhere, went nowhere and then disappeared. Why even doing this? Sure, you’d say to make Dean appear less likeable. But sorry to break it to SG – if that was her intention – didn’t work for me. Loving Dean as much as ever if not more.
But just to mention it. In a way I always thought that even throughout S1-3 you could already see a lot of Dean shining through that we got after S3. You just had to read between the lines. I mean you could always tell there is a whole lot more to Dean then “just” that snarky, sometimes macho kind of guy. But then… maybe that’s just me. Doesn’t matter.
To me the REAL Dean by the way is the one who who is able to integrate all his flaws and all the things you don’t like about him right now, deals with them and then comes back even stronger. That’s something I want to see. A real growth.
As for perspective. Just as you said that to you Sam always seems to come off as” the prissy pure, ray of sunlight, and sympathetic victim when he leave human-killing monsters alive because he feels sorry for them, throws temper tantrums, runs away leaving his brother unguarded, lies, sneaks and betray right and left on the show.” To be honest I never saw Sam as this “figure of light”. In fact not at all. Never. I never perceived Sam as this throughout good person just as I don’t percieved Dean as weak. To me there are lot more things that made me like Sam less than there could ever be with Dean and I don’t knwo why that is, but it is that way.
I guess we just have to agree to disagree here. One thing I’m fairly sure about though is that Carver will have a very hard time pleasing the fans, because there ultimately will always be some fans left to bitch. A lot of people set such high hopes into him that this poor guy basically has to achieve wonders. Anyway, I said it once I said it again. I am excited for season 8 and I believe we will get some great Dean story and if not I’m just going to go make a living out of producing Dean goggles. Hah!
I like your perspective and I wish I had those goggles of your. I’d be a much happier person. I just have to much of an analytical mind I guess.
Your right about Carver. I was thinking the same thing. Everyone expects the series to go the way they wany and it can’t be the way everyone wants…obviously that will never work. I just hope he can fix the big issues for me. Dean back as a strong protag, Sam either grown up or back as a sidekick who is polite to Dean, the brothers have the main story and the guest stars the supporting roles, and the core if the series restored. That seems to be what most want so I hope he can do all that.
And I completely agree with you here, agreeing with all your hopes what Carver will fix.
Nice recap! overall I liked season 7 , the story arc was handled not so good & the whole story around Bobby was useless but I did like the whole leviathans stuff.
1 thing I didn’t get in your recap was about Lenore, why she shouldn’t be in Purgatory? She was a vampire, wasn’t she?
Totally agrees with your ideas of good-way & bad-way to start S8, and to add to those, as one of my friend mentioned; if the writers decide to turn Dean to some monster cause he has spent some times in Purgatory I’ll be pissed!!! Not what I want to see after a long time waiting for a story line for Dean!!!
I’m with friend. By the way if you start selling the Dean Google’s I’m due a big % of the action for lending you the prototype.
That said I did lose my pair this season (about when friend got her pair). This season has really been the proverbial straw. I felt the ossuary scene where Dean said sister mary made him want to be righteous felt like sg thumbing her nose at us Dean positive people ( who I suspect are the majority).
Drinking is a characteristic not a story. Depression is a characteristic not a story. I think ja’s acting really made it seem like it was leading somewhere and I think ja’s earlier comments suggest he thought it was going to lead to a glorious melt down.
Of course all of the characters fared poorly this season. Even those lame ass Leviathan. It all felt rushed, off the cuff, unprofessional.
Cassieo is speaking about the grand plan that started with ek and feebly continued with sg. Sam is the brilliant glowing hero and Dean is the uneducated ne’er-do-well. The plan failed epically in my estimation. Sam never came off like the main hero because of the way he treats Dean and appears to be OK with monsters to the point of endangering others and appearing stupid. Of course he does this because he wants to deny that he could be monstrous and not because he is a good person. He went way too dark in 4 and has never apologized to Dean. S5 should probably have been a two season arc to establish the horror of the apocalypse and help us understand why Sam jumping in the hole was the only way.
Now At this point the logical step would have been for Dean to go lethal badass uberhunter (transference ) as well as moving heaven, earth and hell to get his brother out. Of course this would have given Dean a role again so it didn’t happen. He was the hapless noir detective, abused and beaten down.
In the meantime Sam’s story emphasized how he suffered. The soulless story made him a monster again as well as a better hunter than Dean. I guess once again we were being shown how wonderful Sam is. The problem of course is that this effectively negated the hero’s arc of the previous five seasons since he was not shown growing from the process. He was not reborn better. He came back worse and then once made whole, he felt no guilt for the things he did because he suffered soooooooo.
Dean is their problem child. He was not supposed to surpass Sam but he has. He has the true hero’s arc. Forced to be the little man at 4 (as opposed to Sam who was coddled his whole life), he gave everything he had to make Sam happy and safe. He still lives for others. Really mystery spot should have been about Dean learning to let go. He was as manipulated as Sam by the apocalypse conspiracists, yet unlike Sam he did not let himself be flattered,and ultimately he rejected the angels. His nobility converted cas. His sense of righteousness and family gave him the cojones (sp?) to kill a seraphim. He ate pizza with death and deringed war. He recognized war and was immune to him and famine. Yada yada yada. You all know the list. He is the hero and of course I am excited by the possibilities of season 8. He has to have a story now.
Now why has Dean been denied for 8 seasons. In particular I feel the last two seasons have Been deliberate shafts to those of us who refuse to drink the Sam koolaid. Not just smart Dean girls, but also cassietes and bobbians.
It makes no financial sense. My understanding is the best press and numbers came in 4 when Dean was thrust into the mytharc, and of course Dean was the breakaway star since s1.
I get that ek was stubborn because he identified with Sam. Not sure what was up with sg. I hope that her ouster is in part recognition that they are wasting their greatest asset. I will be excited with goggles on come October.
Beautifully said! I couldn’t agree more. I may just try those Dean goggles again in Oct.
No problem we can split the money wea earn from the Dean Goggles. And to everything you wrote; just: YES! ALL OF IT! Dean has the true hero’s arc. Couldn’t agree more. <33333333
Crazy week for me-and not much time now, but it is so good to see the boards alive and kicking again, after being dead for so long-and all it took was the promise of a cool, supernaturally-themed storyline for Dean/JA. Imagine that!
As other have, I’m sure, pointed out already-that ending made this one. Purgatory looked amazingly CREEPY! Pleas give us some episodes there, Carver. Love that Dean got to kill the Big Bad in a finale again! YAY!
They tied up Bobby’s lame storyline. Thank God-although I hate that we even had to waste screen-time on it in the finale. I hope we only see Bobby in flashbacks/dreamscapes/AUs from now on. RIP Bobby Singer. Please, Show.
I thought the first half hour was boring, but after Dean burned the flask, it picked up. We did not get to see any real fall-out from Dean’s suicidally depressed/alcoholism storyline. What a surprise-not-but maybe we’ll get to see a lot of “bouts of violence” from him next season in Purgatory when he’ll hopefully do some serious monster butt kicking, with Cas helping him out some-but, hopefully, not too much-I’m hoping that Cas will slowly lose his powers while they’re in there.
Thanks for the re-cap, Paula. A pleasure to read, as always.